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“Reflections on Trusting Trust” annotated

41 点作者 joaobatalha超过 9 年前

8 条评论

michaelfeathers超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve always regarded that paper as the &#x27;Godel&#x27;s Incompleteness Theorem&#x27; of Security.<p>I&#x27;m not saying that the security field had a &#x27;Hilbert&#x27;s Program&#x27; before then, but it certainly couldn&#x27;t have one afterward.
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pvg超过 9 年前
previously and previously and previously.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=The%20Ken%20Thompson%20Hack&amp;sort=byDate&amp;dateRange=all&amp;type=story&amp;storyText=false&amp;prefix&amp;page=0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=The%20Ken%20Thompson%20Hack&amp;so...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=reflections%20on%20trusting%20trust&amp;sort=byDate&amp;dateRange=all&amp;type=story&amp;storyText=false&amp;prefix&amp;page=0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=reflections%20on%20trusting%20...</a>
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rui314超过 9 年前
This self-referencing naturally occurs if you are writing a self-hosting compiler. I have read the Ken&#x27;s paper, but when I was writing my C compiler in C (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;rui314&#x2F;8cc&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;lex.c#L306" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;rui314&#x2F;8cc&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;lex.c#L306</a>), I was not aware that this was what Ken wrote in the paper. It was funny to notice that long after I wrote the code.
RankingMember超过 9 年前
Interesting read. Aside: As a compulsive text-highlighter, this site drove me nuts.
slfnflctd超过 9 年前
Great read, it really does come down to ethical vs. unethical behavior at the end of it all. Someone smart doing something destructive is still behaving badly, and giving them undeserved respect (beyond their technical ability) simply for destroying things &#x27;more intelligently&#x27; is foolish.<p>Regardless, I&#x27;m left feeling yet again that I can&#x27;t fully trust anything. Good thing I don&#x27;t need to these days; I fear for those who do.
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nikisweeting超过 9 年前
Really great paper, glad you guys posted it!
w8rbt超过 9 年前
At some point, everything comes down to trust.
agentxyz超过 9 年前
Personally, I find epic massive Byzantine attacks far more interesting. For example, imagine if a gangster were so suave that he could walk into any ghetto and immediately become the local mob boss. These things are computationally possible. In fact, these attacks happen in nature. I find the Grey Goo Problem far more threatening. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@yanazendo&#x2F;the-grey-goo-problem-bd495813c6ed" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@yanazendo&#x2F;the-grey-goo-problem-bd495813c...</a>
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