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How a handful of geeks defied the USSR (2011)

43 点作者 ffffruit超过 9 年前

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hardmath123超过 9 年前
Relevant—here are IRC logs from the 1991 Soviet coup d&#x27;état attempt: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20090628013626&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ibiblio.org&#x2F;pub&#x2F;academic&#x2F;communications&#x2F;logs&#x2F;report-ussr-gorbatchev" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20090628013626&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ibiblio...</a>
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bootload超过 9 年前
<i>&quot;Thus the first cyber-activists were able to use this decentralized architecture and Usenet (developed in the USSR in 1982) to circumvent traditional censorship.&quot;</i><p>That should read, <i>&quot;re-inveneted in USSR&quot;</i>.<p>Tom Truscott [0] and Jim Ellis [1] are the creators of Usenet. Bnews was indeed released in &#x27;82, using UUCP to exchange between machines. [2] This was before NNTP. In &#x27;95, Truscott and Ellis received the Flame award at USENIX.[3] Guess what for?<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tom_Truscott" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tom_Truscott</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Jim_Ellis_%28computing%29" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Jim_Ellis_%28computing%29</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tldp.org&#x2F;LDP&#x2F;nag&#x2F;node256.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tldp.org&#x2F;LDP&#x2F;nag&#x2F;node256.html</a><p>[3] 1995: <i>&quot;the third Lifetime Achievement Award was presented to Tom Truscott, Steve Bellovin, and Jim Ellis for their work in creating USENET.&quot;</i> ~ <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;about&#x2F;flame" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;about&#x2F;flame</a>
efoto超过 9 年前
Relcom and USENET indeed played a role in helping the people of Moscow and Leningrad to defeat that coup d&#x27;état: the mere fact, that it continued to operate was an indication of a weakened grip of the KGB.
lukasb超过 9 年前
&quot;All channels were blacked-out except for one; Usenet, which is the grandfather of chat-rooms and is capable or [sic] surviving without the Internet.&quot;<p>Do they mean Usenet doesn&#x27;t require IP to work? And did that matter here? Would actually be fascinating if some alternative federated server comms played a pivotal role, but more likely this is careless writing.
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chiph超过 9 年前
There&#x27;s a good account of the coup attempt in <i>The Dead Hand</i>[0] in the last 1&#x2F;3 of the book. According to it, Gorbachev and family were isolated in his dacha, and his &quot;Nuclear Football&quot; -- the <i>Cheget</i>, that controlled their ICBM launch codes was taken from him.<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Dead-Hand-Untold-Dangerous-Legacy-ebook&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B002PXFYPQ" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Dead-Hand-Untold-Dangerous-Legacy-eboo...</a>
guard-of-terra超过 9 年前
I guess pretty much anybody had defied the USSR at that point.<p>The coup attempt was an act of desperation.
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obrero超过 9 年前
Usenet probably did play some small part in taking power away from the government and Gosplan, and handing it to the people of the USSR.<p>This is one of the main reasons the US government and the corporations which monopolize the last mile of communications effectively killed off Usenet in 2009.