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Jason Calacanis responds to Aaron from SEO Book

86 点作者 ashishk超过 15 年前

10 条评论

aaronwall超过 15 年前
"We can't tell whether Jason is misleading us about the proportion of scrape-generated pages on Mahalo without access to any Mahalo page statistics."<p>Well, when doing a site search in Google for site:mahalo.com "Links Powered by Google" there are 553,000 pages <i></i><i>indexed in Google</i><i></i> which are using scraped search result content (with optimized page titles) to help pull in traffic. <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amahalo.com+Links++Powered+by+Google" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amahalo.com+Links++Powe...</a><p>and keep in mind that is just links from Google...there are also chunks of content from Google blog search, Twitter, and other sources (images, videos, news) on those pages<p>he is full of ____ if he is trying to get anyone to buy that doing the above is responsible for less than 1% of their traffic when Compete.com shows their search referral traffic as being ~ 60% of their referrals<p>It is not just a few (thousand) 100% auto-generated (experiment/stub/zebra/spam) pages that have scraped content on them...the above search shows Google estimates over a half million pages in their index contain content from their own search index...total regurgitation of 3rd party content :D<p>And lets not forget that 1.) he is using people's optimized page titles as content on his pages 2.) search traffic monetizes better via ads than other traffic forms...especially the search traffic that lands on a page for some random longtail keyword made up by arbitrarily combining chunks of 3rd party content mixed together and re-aggregated. 3.) in addition, there is a $0 editorial cost to scraping these millions and millions of content snippets and re-displaying them. 4.) he is making at least 5 figures a day from that content scraping...with 100% certainty.<p>his 1% remark is just another form of misinformation. nothing new there!
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kyro超过 15 年前
Uh, that's not a response to Aaron's article. That's Jason acting naive and oblivious to dodge the accusations, and taking on this whole 'aww shucks, can you help me out a bit?' attitude to shift the discussion and get on Aaron's good side. If you had a case against what you were accused of doing, you would've published a well thought-out article, much like some of the articles you've written that have been on subjects you're clearly confident and well-versed in. But you have nothing this time.<p>Also, stating that such pages only amount to less than 1% of your revenue is in no way a justification of the content theft you're committing. You're cowardly sidestepping the issue. What have you got to say about the actual content theft, rebranding of such content as Mahalo's, and knocking down the original authors of that content by skipping on the credits and outranking them?<p>You got caught, dude.
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Towle_超过 15 年前
Semi-unrelated to the actual content of this particular post: (I apologize about that, by the way)<p>Am I the only one who simply can't stand Jason Calacanis?<p>He's often propped up as some sort of guru/authority/etc. of start-ups and the Web in general, and I just don't see it at all. I've never read any words of his and felt like a smarter or more knowledgeable person afterward; I only ever see rather mundane platitudes.<p>Perhaps I just haven't read the right pieces of his? If anyone believes this might the case, please consider responding to this post with a link or two. I'm seriously very baffled by his image (and to be honest, I don't think highly of Mahalo as a concept, for many various reasons I won't detail here unless someone is interested in them).
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newsio超过 15 年前
Jason is full of it. Playing stupid and meek because he got caught.<p>The original SEO book post and HN discussion are here:<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073723" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073723</a><p>EDITED: Added correct link (thanks icey!)
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krtl超过 15 年前
"we accidentally took that off when we moved to Mahalo 3.0 i think." Jason is the last person who would accidentally make a move like that. Its all planed.
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ErrantX超过 15 年前
Regardless of who is right/wrong here this strikes me as a very glib response to quite a serious accusation levelled at his business practices.<p>To me it doesn't seem to help his credibility.
qeorge超过 15 年前
If Jason really wants advice, here's two things:<p>1) "Spreading our PageRank" is BS. More pages == more total PageRank. Wikipedia's summary isn't half bad: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank</a><p>2) Remove the nofollow's from the attribution links to content you've scraped. Anything else is just plain rude.
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aresant超过 15 年前
Jason's sweeping "it's less than &#60;1%" comments are getting tired.<p>Mahalo is a great money printing machine, but come on, those are pages designed to do one thing - rip content quickly, monetize, and SPAM google.
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ashu超过 15 年前
Google, any comment?
FreeRadical超过 15 年前
To be honest it was quite a dignified response, I was expecting something with more 'fire' when I clicked the link.
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