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Java's Cover (2001)

21 点作者 vminkov超过 9 年前

12 条评论

suyash超过 9 年前
No one loves it. C, Perl, Python, Smalltalk, and Lisp programmers love their languages. I&#x27;ve never heard anyone say that they loved Java.<p>- You must be kidding me, ever been to any JUG meeting or JavaOne conference? There are millions of hardcore Java lovers at those places. Java has one of the the biggest developer community world wide. I love Java - it&#x27;s one of the best programming language till date.
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MBlume超过 9 年前
So pg predicts that hackers are going to hate Java. Hackers mostly hate Java. Because of this, pg predicts Java will be unsuccessful. Java&#x27;s actually pretty successful. This is kind of sobering. Possibly we overestimate the social influence of hackers.
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gozur88超过 9 年前
I know it custom to bash java on HN, but personally I like java. I don&#x27;t mind the verbosity - a decent IDE will handle that.
jeorgun超过 9 年前
&quot;Historically, languages designed for other people to use have been bad: Cobol, PL&#x2F;I, Pascal, Ada, C++.&quot;<p>In what sense was C++ designed for other people? IIRC Stroustrup came up with it to use on his own research projects.
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Hermel超过 9 年前
Looks like he was wrong.
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AnimalMuppet超过 9 年前
I have mixed feelings about Java.<p>Reflection made one tricky part of a project <i>very</i> easy. I still love how elegantly it turned out. The type system is... I used to think it was really good, now I&#x27;d just call it &quot;OK&quot;. JNI is useful for getting certain things done, but the syntax is gouge-your-eyeballs-out awful. Checked exceptions are very useful if you are serious about error handling, and a royal pain if&#x2F;when you are not.<p>But the thing that was great about Java, to me, was the library. It was like Barbie - it had <i>everything</i>. I&#x27;m just talking about the standard Java library here.<p>Then you get into the other libraries - Spring and J2EE frameworks and Hibernate and so on, and the XML configuration files multiply. They do great things, but if you have to change what they do, you have to change some setting in some XML file, which uses some syntax that you don&#x27;t know, and your job is to figure out which XML file and which setting and where the documentation is, and you just go insane. I understand why people loathe that environment.
draw_down超过 9 年前
Well, this isn&#x27;t very good. &quot;No one had to promote C, or Unix, or HTML&quot;? Really?<p>I tend to find his essays much less interesting and persuasive now than I used to. I&#x27;m not sure why.
peterashford超过 9 年前
Shows that his &quot;radar&quot; is pretty crap. His hunch that it wouldn&#x27;t be a very successful language didn&#x27;t turn out so well.
lucidquiet超过 9 年前
Wonder what life would have be like if instead of Java, it was Go that appeared in the 90s...
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peter303超过 9 年前
&quot;the less one knows, the wiser one is&quot;
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AnimalMuppet超过 9 年前
Note: 2001.
erokar超过 9 年前
Spot on. Java is such a sad language, so verbose, so cumbersome, so inexpressive, radiating such a condescending stupidity. Its pervasiveness today, at the end of fucking 2015, is just depressing.
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