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Cock.li server seized again by German prosecutor, service moves to Romania

39 点作者 Koahku超过 9 年前

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striking超过 9 年前
Mr. Canfield&#x27;s thoughts on the matter:<p>&gt;&gt; Of course, though the facts of the case are yet to be seen since no one in Germany is talking to us, I will definitely never host anything in Germany ever again<p>He was trusting of authorities and purposely did not use TLS (beyond STARTTLS) or encrypt his hard drives. And this is what happens. They take his hard drives immediately and seize his entire service.<p>How are we supposed to trust the authorities when they make themselves untrustable?<p>How are we, as server admins, supposed to stand down and backdoor our servers for law enforcement when this happens, when we know we can&#x27;t trust them to use their powers responsibly?<p>Every time some big NSA exposé is unveiled, every time someone gets raided for no particular reason, I get to reaffirm my distrust of the Internet police, in whatever form they choose to take.<p>Policing the Internet is untenable and useless. Don&#x27;t help the authorities attack your users, because oftentimes...<p>you&#x27;re their last defense.
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darklajid超过 9 年前
Ignoring the childish domain name, hopefully the discussion won&#x27;t go down that route again - that guy seems quite sincere and explains the situation quite well.<p>My take away: Don&#x27;t (blindly) trust Germany, and certainly don&#x27;t use Hetzner. If he&#x27;s correct (&quot;Hetzner didn&#x27;t provide a copy of the confiscation order to me or my lawyer&quot;) I&#x27;m glad to be the first in this community that runs around, arms flailing, shouting &quot;Hetzner is bad, Hetzner is the devil&quot;.
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teddyh超过 9 年前
Running a server containing users’ data (especially an e-mail server) in 2016 <i>without full-disk encryption</i> is like running a web server <i>without HTTPS</i>. Just <i>don’t</i>. It’s a privacy disaster waiting to happen.<p>This can happen in any country, even to a silly cock joke site like this, and your users <i>will</i> be hurt by it, possibly for many years to come. There is no longer any excuse not to do it.
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rdl超过 9 年前
His video statement is pretty funny; I wish they were all this funny. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;u.pomf.is&#x2F;imrkjv.webm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;u.pomf.is&#x2F;imrkjv.webm</a> &quot;Steadfast commitment to a cock joke&quot;.<p>I&#x27;m kind of surprised Hetzner didn&#x27;t replace a hard drive after the first raid; it was apparently operating in degraded RAID-1.
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Koahku超过 9 年前
Previous discussion on HN after the first time it was seized<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10774152" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10774152</a>
glasz超过 9 年前
since people seem surprised, let me reiterate on those laughable german data protection laws:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;glasz.org&#x2F;sheeplog&#x2F;2015&#x2F;02&#x2F;data-privacy-regulations-in-the-eu-are-among-the-strictest.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;glasz.org&#x2F;sheeplog&#x2F;2015&#x2F;02&#x2F;data-privacy-regulations-i...</a><p>DO NOT trust any government or company. everything is full of submissive sheep. particularly so in germany.
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