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The Apple iPad Pro Review

95 点作者 davidiach超过 9 年前

27 条评论

rayiner超过 9 年前
The 6s and iPad Pro are a good demonstration of the importance of designing systems <i>tastefully</i>. In the rest of ARM-land, manufacturers are enthralled by octa-core designs that take up lots of die space but sit idle in most consumer workloads. Apple, in comparison, has stuck to two relatively low-clocked cores to deliver balanced performance.<p>When my iPhone got stolen, I briefly had a Droid Maxx 2 (Verizon&#x27;s version of the Moto X Play), which was the laggiest phone I&#x27;ve ever owned (and that includes a $130 Lumia 620). Its Snapdragon 615 has a GPU so anemic it can&#x27;t handle even basic Google Play Store animations without stuttering. But it&#x27;s got eight cores, which apparently checks the boxes of Android ODMs because the 615 is used in nearly every upper mid-range Android phone. That&#x27;s what happens when spec-heavy marketing drives your system architecture.<p>And the focus on specs (cores, clockspeed), ironically results in worse performance. Under sustained load, the Nexus 6p spends most of its time under a gigahertz because of thermal throttling: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anandtech.com&#x2F;show&#x2F;9820&#x2F;the-google-nexus-6p-review&#x2F;4" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anandtech.com&#x2F;show&#x2F;9820&#x2F;the-google-nexus-6p-revie...</a>. The 6s and 6s plus, in comparison, can run a graphics-intensive benchmark until the battery dies while maintaining a consistent framerate: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anandtech.com&#x2F;show&#x2F;9686&#x2F;the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review&#x2F;8" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.anandtech.com&#x2F;show&#x2F;9686&#x2F;the-apple-iphone-6s-and-i...</a>.
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m52go超过 9 年前
For all the hate this device gets, it has its fans. Particularly (in my experience) middle-age &quot;tech enthusiasts&quot; (commonly, folks who don&#x27;t work in the industry but consider themselves trendy because they know about the newest devices) who already have work devices and use laptops and tablets a lot already for mostly mundane personal tasks.<p>For them, a larger iPad with a keyboard is all they need for their personal work (email, Googling, etc), and the huge screen &amp; 4 speakers are icing on the cake for watching Netflix or HBO Go with their spouse in bed.<p>It was hard for me to understand this appeal because it&#x27;s often made out to be an office productivity device a la Surface Pro. I doubt it&#x27;ll succeed that way. From what I&#x27;ve seen, people seem to see it as a quick, slick, light, no-frills laptop replacement for <i>personal work &amp; play</i> for people in an older, more affluent demographic...and it fulfills that use case very well.
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centizen超过 9 年前
After trying to make use of my iPad Pro as my daily carry tablet, I&#x27;ve kept finding myself coming back to an Air 2 for most tasks. Save for the pencil, I feel like neither Apple nor 3rd party devs are taking proper advantage of the extra size or power. At least not yet.
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xiaoma超过 9 年前
As someone who loves Apple products and a happy buyer of an iMac, Macbook Air, iPad mini and iPhone, I don&#x27;t think the iPad Pro is a winner.<p>The problem is the OS.<p>A Surface Pro is not only a great machine for not only web browsing and using mobile apps, but also a usable machine for playing desktop games, programming, design work and more. The iPad Pro just can&#x27;t do these things because the OS won&#x27;t let you. If I could run all MacOS on it and use all of my software from my home computer, it would be very compelling. As it is, you don&#x27;t even get access to the filesystem (and thus files are siloed into app-specific containers).<p>If I could only keep two devices, they would be the iMac and the iPhone.<p>If I could only keep one device, it would be my Macbook air. Given the choice, I just might swap it for a surface.
ssharp超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve had two iPads now, both given to me, and both have mostly sat around collecting dust. Except for a few rare use-cases, I&#x27;d rather be on a laptop.<p>My parents, on the other hand, are the polar opposite. Since getting an iPad, my mom has completely abandoned her laptop and will use their shared iMac on rare occasions.<p>For me, having a phone + laptop is more than enough. For them, phone + tablet seems to be the right mix. But I don&#x27;t see the additional features of the Pro shaking up the mix for me at all.
Aleman360超过 9 年前
The biggest downside to me is games. I returned an iPad Pro for the 12&quot; MacBook. Just as portable and Civ V and Steam&#x2F;Xbox streaming is a much better use of my limited gaming time than anything on the app store.
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Cshelton超过 9 年前
I use my Ipad Pro mostly at home as the &quot;computer away from my computer&quot;. Article summed it up perfectly. I understand though that this is not for everyone, but for my uses, I love my Pro.<p>Also, the pencil is freaking awesome! I&#x27;m not an &#x27;artist&#x27; per say, but I love just messing around with it and doodling. Even just sketching out some business ideas as a rough mind map or some ui designs, it basically replaced pen and paper for me. Only now, I can have all my &#x27;papers&#x27; organized and in one place.
johnchristopher超过 9 年前
They should sell it as some kind of portable bathroom mirror with apps. Or bundle the thing with some Gillette razors or something.<p>When in front of a mate and a glare screen I know of no one that prefers the glare one.
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walterbell超过 9 年前
iPad Pro + Logitech Create Pro keyboard + iOS 9.1 was a dream convergence device and portable terminal (ssh, vnc, rdp) with 2732x2048 (274 dpi) resolution in 3:2 format. The vertical space was amazing for text editing, after years of 16:9 height-challenged laptop screens. It can also be an external monitor for Windows&#x2F;Mac via <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.duetdisplay.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.duetdisplay.com</a>.<p>Until Lenovo Retro or another vendor offers a 4:3 screen, the iPad Pro was a rare and positive outlier with portable editing and long battery life. Then Apple iOS 9.2 arrived, which dropped and delayed keystrokes from the Logitech keyboard, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discussions.apple.com&#x2F;message&#x2F;29656057" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discussions.apple.com&#x2F;message&#x2F;29656057</a>. The amazing, out-of-box experience lasted about 2 weeks, a new record for technology obsolescence. It has not been addressed in iOS 9.2.1 or iOS 9.3 public beta 1.
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monkmartinez超过 9 年前
Shame, I can&#x27;t install one-quarter of the software I use on a daily basis on a &quot;pro&quot; ipad. I will stick with the $100 dollar Android tablet that allows me to read books and look at websites... When it kicks the bucket, I am sure I can find one even cheaper.
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makecheck超过 9 年前
I have seen some really cool applications of iPads in businesses and other public places, such as fast and intuitive payment systems at walk-up lunch counters. These will always be better than laptops or phones for the task. (Even Apple Pay seems oddly clumsy to me; after taking out my phone and trying to interface with a device properly, it just seems less straightforward than tapping some buttons and scribbling my signature with my finger like I can on the iPad interfaces.)<p>I <i>wish</i> that web browsing were better on the iPad; that should have been the killer feature. On day one, before web sites knew about the iPad, it was incredible. Sadly (and ironically, for a &quot;walled garden&quot; device that is supposed to be so restrictive itself), the <i>most</i> out-of-control feature of an iPad seems to be the web sites you visit. They have way too much damned control over the browser, and they keep trying to deliver a special iPad <i>experience</i> when all I want is a web site. If Apple really wants a good feature in iOS 10, they should make Safari stubbornly refuse to do 90% of what web sites &quot;request&quot;.
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dankohn1超过 9 年前
My father-in-law is thrilled with the iPad Pro I got him over Christmas. He uses the Logitech keyboard when sitting at the kitchen table and then folds it over behind when reading the newspaper on the couch.<p>The keyboard case is a little clunkier than it should be, but the whole package is fantastic. Plus, the simpler iOS UI is perfect for him, plus no malware, iCloud backups, iCloud Photo sync from his iPhone, etc.
galfarragem超过 9 年前
What I really dislike in Ipad Pro is that IOS doesn&#x27;t adapt to it as e.g. showing more icons [1]. Then I could see it as being professional oriented. Right now is just an Ipad Large.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;images.anandtech.com&#x2F;doci&#x2F;9766&#x2F;DSC_4098b_678x452.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;images.anandtech.com&#x2F;doci&#x2F;9766&#x2F;DSC_4098b_678x452.jpg</a>
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drakenot超过 9 年前
I have been considering the iPad Pro for reading journal articles and math&#x2F;computer science textbooks.<p>I&#x27;ve owned the original iPad and now own an iPad Mini, but for the 2 above tasks I find it annoying to have to constantly pan&#x2F;zoom on fixed size content.<p>Has anyone used the iPad Pro for these tasks? How did it work for you?
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ksec超过 9 年前
A few thing on the Intel x86 Vs Apple ARM.<p>1.Intel is on their 2nd generation FinFET, while TSMC is still on 1st Gen. Intel also provides higher node density and slightly lower power consumption.<p>2.LLVM is good, but not anywhere as good at optimising as Intel Compiler.<p>3.A9X is without L3 Cache which has always shown to add quite a bit of performance for CPU task.<p>Even if Apple somehow don&#x27;t have the above three disadvantage, my guess is that Intel Core M will still wins. But it just show how close Apple is getting into Intel performance territory. Considering We don&#x27;t get any update from Intel, ( Unless Intel surprise us with Kaby Bridge performance improvement ) This year Apple A10 will be interesting compared to Intel and see how close the gap is.
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Tloewald超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve been holding off on buying an iPad Pro until I can walk into an Apple Store and buy one _with a stylus_ (last I checked the wait on the stylus was down to 2 weeks).<p>It seems to me that if you want the stylus, you&#x27;re in the core market for this device. If you do not care about the stylus, you probably aren&#x27;t. The iPad Pro with a stylus replaces a similarly expensive Wacom Cintiq, while also being usable on its own. Everything beyond that is pure gravy.<p>The keyboard seems like a miss (frankly, I prefer the Surface Book&#x27;s design, and I want a freaking trackpad — note that the glass keyboard acts like a trackpad for text selection on the latest iPhones, so it&#x27;s hardly unreasonable).
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mark_l_watson超过 9 年前
Interesting review even if it is not very relevant to me. I bought an iPad Pro a few weeks ago and my workload is: I write a lot (I publish a new book every 8 or 9 months), I program a lot (mostly Haskell, Ruby, and Java), I read a lot, I listen to audio books and watch video on demand.<p>All of this work flow (and fun flow :-) is better done on my iPad Pro rather than one of my laptops (Macbook Air, Linux, Windows), EXCEPT:<p>Programming on the iPad Pro is not good. I use the Prompt SSH&#x2F;terminal application to SSH to one of my servers that I have set up for remote development.<p>Anyway, I now spend abut 1&#x2F;2 of my time on the iPad Pro and the other 1&#x2F;2 of my time on one of my laptops.
tetraodonpuffer超过 9 年前
as much as it seemed the review was positive it was a bit depressing to read how hard it was for the reviewer to get the notes they worked on off the tablet (having to save each individual page separately to the gallery, upload to dropbox and then use an actual laptop to generate a pdf)<p>I can see how the ethos of Apple is to keep you in their ecosystem, but for things like notes and so on they really should focus more on easy export to standard formats.<p>(unless of course the reviewer missed how to do that more directly)
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robbies超过 9 年前
What&#x27;s most interesting to me about the iPad Pro is that it (likely) will be the most popular consumer device pushing beyond 1440p (2048p = ~5.6 megapixels vs ~3.7 megapixels). Considering the dearth of 4K content out there, I wonder if this will start to push devs into making considerations for 4K, considering that this is over halfway to that resolution.
jasonsync超过 9 年前
It&#x27;s the pencil .. stupid.<p>The iPad Pro with Apple Pencil is almost $1000 LESS than a comparable Wacom Cintiq 2. And the Apple Pencil is a game changer compared to the older Wacom tech.<p>It&#x27;s the most natural &quot;feeling&quot; stylus out there. Apps that support the tilt feature of the pencil make drawing and painting incredibly fun. And the increased scan rate of the iPad Pro screen (240 times per second) make the pencil super accurate (compared to using third-party pencils on older iPads).<p>And while the iPad Pro doesn&#x27;t run full OSX, the Adobe Apps designed for iOS and Apple Pencil feel refreshing, like new again. They&#x27;re simplistic by design, and hopefully Adobe will keep improving them (Creative Suite on the desktop has stagnated for 10 years).<p>Microsoft OneNote is free as well. I&#x27;m getting the full Surface Pro experience as well, and feel kind of guilty for doing it for some reason :-)<p>Point being, there&#x27;s no shortage of apps these days.<p>Finally, AstroPad (another third-party app) lets you use the &quot;full versions&quot; of any app you&#x27;ve got on your OS X desktop, on the iPad. You can screen share and control OS X with touchscreen and Apple Pencil support. So painting in Photoshop on the iPad Pro is possible too.<p>I purchased the iPad Air a couple years ago and promptly returned it. Maybe the app support wasn&#x27;t there, or the cheap feeling third-party keyboard case turned me off.<p>The iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil is a keeper.
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lectrick超过 9 年前
I am <i>ONLY</i> interested in this if it will be possible to code on it. I am fairly certain most of the HN community would agree that a device that &quot;completes the circle&quot; (allows you to create native apps on the device, for the device) is better than a device (almost) purely designed for consumption and communication over creation.
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blisterpeanuts超过 9 年前
This will be an awesome tablet for artists, designers and sales&#x2F;marketing presenters. I&#x27;m not sure how well it will do in the home market -- there might be a ceiling to how much tablet someone can fit in their lap or on the tray table in coach class. It&#x27;s bigger than the average purse, too.
peter303超过 9 年前
My 2012 iPad still works pretty well. You really dont need to upgrade every two years like with a smartphone. I am thinking a new model finally becasue they are about 20 times faster, sharper, and lighter.
mandeepj超过 9 年前
Do you see apple merging iPad Pro and macbook pro into one device like Surface book?<p>They have got large screen iPhone 6 after getting stiff competition from Samsung.
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tacos超过 9 年前
The third time the reviewer mentioned Apple&#x27;s method for reducing the torque needed for a user to manipulate such a large device I started to question what I was doing with my life.
revelation超过 9 年前
That&#x27;s interesting, endless waffle about CPU engineering changes here and there, then they basically gloss over the fact that this Pro is forever limited to running a neutered iOS system (but you know, 2 apps simultaneously now!).
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13of40超过 9 年前
I bought an iPad about two years ago, after hearing years of hype about the quality of Apple products. I use it mostly for web browsing, and the thing that shocks me the most about it is how many mainstream sites simply don&#x27;t work right in the browser. (By &quot;browser&quot; I mean Safari or Chrome - they seem to have the same issues.) Sites like EBay, Google News, Google Books, and SlashDot all have glitches that either make them unusable or seriously frustrating to use. News sites take forever to load and tend to crash the browser after a few minutes of use. If you&#x27;re a first-time buyer and you&#x27;re considering getting an iPad, slap yourself, take a minute to breathe, and go look at some Android tablets instead.
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