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The Biggest Mistake I Ever Made

125 点作者 jasoncwarner超过 9 年前

15 条评论

jondubois超过 9 年前
This sounds similar to what I&#x27;ve experienced at various startups. The problem is that the people who have been around the longest tend to have more knowledge of the tools and techniques which relate to a specific project - Sometimes it even seems like their overall understanding of technology is superior too - But that is an illusion.<p>I&#x27;ve changed companies a lot as a software engineer and I noticed that whenever I join a new company, I usually feel like the dumbest person in the company at the beginning - For example, other developers might mention specific features of Linux which I had never come across before or they might make references to certain technical concepts which I didn&#x27;t know about. But a couple of months in, I usually feel smart again and then I get bored... (This cycle happens every time when I change company).<p>What I realized is that knowledge doesn&#x27;t flow very well between companies - Each one tends to get specialized in very specific ways but they don&#x27;t realize it. The developer who has been around the longest is the most knowledgeable when it comes to the technology surrounding the project in its current state - So it&#x27;s very difficult for another regular developer to &#x27;win&#x27; an argument against them - This is bad because the most senior developer is often too deeply set in his ways (it works best for him) but in reality, you need the whole team to take a few steps back to find something which works best for everyone.
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davemel37超过 9 年前
Some financial firms have forced paid time off (atleast 5 consecutive days) to make sure they are never fully dependent on any one employee, and to fix it if they ever find themselves in that situation. (They also do it to make sure no one is covering up fraud by always working.)
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natepollack超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m the kind of developer the article mentions (at least some of my previous colleagues like to think so). But here is the deal. It is hard to work with me if you don&#x27;t want to put enough energy into your own work. Because at my previous job there were people who told me that it is impossible (for them) to work with me, and all I could see that they didn&#x27;t add ANY value to the project, but made me do stupid things like using Google Docs to track my tasks, instead of Basecamp which I already used with others for quite some time. And you know what? If you are this kind of person then it is super hard for me to not get pissed every time you open your mouth. I&#x27;m not the kind of guy to smile at you if you try to make my work harder than it already is.<p>And there were people who said that working with me was the best part of their job, but they were hard working and smart. And I really liked to work with them too. Every story has two sides.<p>I don&#x27;t mean that Jason (OP) is not right! He probably is. But you can&#x27;t generalize this as easily as the article says. Sometimes not the mean developer is at fault but the stupid management (even if there is more of them).
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CM30超过 9 年前
Not really a professional career example, but this story reminds me of my time running internet forums, and how I made pretty much the exact same type of mistake a fair amount. I&#x27;d take on an active contributor as staff, but end up overlooking their hair trigger temper or hostile behaviour because they&#x27;d spent so much time contributing to the site beforehand.<p>What I didn&#x27;t realise (and I&#x27;m sure a lot of people who keep on these individuals in paid jobs don&#x27;t realise), is that it starts scaring off other qualified members&#x2F;employees. By keeping on one bad individual, you drive away your other skilled users or employees.
blisterpeanuts超过 9 年前
A manager I know had a term for obnoxious over-achievers: &quot;brilliant assholes&quot;.<p>But there are other kinds of high achievers who should not leave because, after all, talent is talent.<p>You don&#x27;t say, &quot;Bob wrote 70% of our product, and he&#x27;s head and shoulders above the rest of the team, so he&#x27;s got to go!&quot;<p>You <i>should</i> say, &quot;How are we best utilizing our in-house talent? Does Bob engender resentment from the lesser programmers? Maybe Bob should have the role of chief architect, and get Bill to be team lead since Bill&#x27;s more of a people person.&quot;<p>It&#x27;s complicated, and every case is different, and the size of the company is also a factor. Part of the art of management is the ability to get the most out of each person on the team. It&#x27;s hard, it takes years to learn how to manage, and it&#x27;s not for everyone.<p>Technology work isn&#x27;t exactly like basketball. In team sports, you <i>have</i> to work with a team; it&#x27;s not like you can just play the game all by yourself. The whole point of participative sports is that everyone <i>has</i> to participate.<p>But in technology, often it&#x27;s the solo contributors that drive innovation by making a brilliant but messy system that the regular guys&#x2F;gals have to clean up and maintain.<p>Once in a while, you see a brilliant solo contributor who makes a clean, maintainable system, and documents it nicely, and politely and sensitively hands it off to more junior staff to maintain while he&#x2F;she moves on to the next big thing -- and what a joy that is! But more often they&#x27;re the brilliant asshole that you have to deal with, both their professional work and personal foibles.
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n72超过 9 年前
If that&#x27;s the biggest mistake he&#x27;s ever made, he leads a charmed life.
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speeder超过 9 年前
Question: What a person that IS the exceptionally skilled person but that drags down the team, should do to not drag down the team?
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lucio超过 9 年前
John Sculley followed your advice, but it didn&#x27;t go well..
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endymi0n超过 9 年前
Related (and with a little more background): <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;firstround.com&#x2F;review&#x2F;why-firing-brilliant-assholes-is-required-to-build-a-great-engineering-culture&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;firstround.com&#x2F;review&#x2F;why-firing-brilliant-assholes-i...</a><p>Excellent point in any case.
chris_wot超过 9 年前
How do you identify that you are the person who is causing problems?
erichocean超过 9 年前
Instead of calling them &quot;assholes&quot;, I wish people like the OP would just be honest and say they don&#x27;t want to work with people on the spectrum. There&#x27;s no shame in that, it&#x27;s perfectly fine to prefer neurotypicals at your workplace; the vast majority of people do.
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danjoc超过 9 年前
Here&#x27;s his point (I think):<p>&quot;The founder and I made the most classic of mistakes: putting up with someone because we were afraid to lose their ability. I’ve since come to learn over and over again, it’s almost never worth it.&quot;<p>Perhaps just me, but I don&#x27;t like this style of writing. It takes pages of reading to arrive at a fairly simple point.<p>Authors, please make your point first. Elaborate all you like with long winded stories afterwards.
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fwn超过 9 年前
TL;DR version:<p>&quot;[...]I made the most classic of mistakes: putting up with someone because we were afraid to lose their ability. [...] it’s almost never worth it.&quot;<p>edit: shortened it.
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yoodenvranx超过 9 年前
&gt; The Biggest Mistake I Ever Made<p>Using non-descriptive titles on HN?
edent超过 9 年前
Wow! Once again I&#x27;m grateful to live in a country with sane labour laws - and glad to have the backing of a trade union.<p>So because the managers couldn&#x27;t do a decent job of managing their employee, he loses his job and all associated benefits?
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