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Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client

827 点作者 cujanovic超过 9 年前

96 条评论

nakedrobot2超过 9 年前
Skype worked far, far better 10 years ago than it does today. From all indications I&#x27;ve seen, Skype is getting dramatically worse all the time. From a personal standpoint, it crashes for me multiple times a day and I can rarely get group calls working on the first try. Often Skype requires a force-quit and then it crashes twice more when it is being restarted. This is on Mac and Android.<p>Fun fact: I have a friend who worked for Skype in Prague. He said the codebase is a true horror, an extreme mess, and that soon it would &quot;reach a singularity&quot; :-) He also said that there are whole parts of the codebase that he was not allowed to see, all indications pointing to stuff related to routing the traffic through servers of &quot;the man&quot; ;-)
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ElijahLynn超过 9 年前
Stop using Skype. The NSA allegedly collects all Skype traffic anyways. Do you really want that?<p>&quot;The full capture of voice traffic began in February of 2011 for “Skype in” and “Skype out” calls—calls between a Skype user and a land line or cellphone through a gateway to the public switched telephone network (PSTN), captured through warranted taps into Microsoft’s gateways. But in July of 2011, the NSA added the capability of capturing peer-to-peer Skype communications—meaning that the NSA gained the ability to capture peer-to-peer traffic and decrypt it using keys provided by Microsoft through the PRISM warrant request.&quot;<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2014&#x2F;12&#x2F;newly-published-nsa-documents-show-agency-could-grab-all-skype-traffic&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2014&#x2F;12&#x2F;newly-published-n...</a>
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rdsubhas超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve been educating as many people (especially Management and Business people) as I can to switch over from Skype to any other alternative (like Hangouts). Because Skype is:<p>* A memory hog<p>* A bandwidth hog (its really inefficient about network usage, and uses a lot of bandwidth even when idle)<p>* Has much lower call quality (a consequence of the above), just try having a call in Hangouts or Skype and notice that Hangouts has much lower audio lag, doesn&#x27;t kick out people constantly even when screen sharing, etc<p>* Is now owned by Microsoft<p>* Never cared about privacy or security (not that Hangouts does, but Skype just sets a very very low precedent)<p>* Group Messaging is a mess<p>* Individual Messaging is a mess<p>The list goes on and on. Its 2016, and &quot;Let&#x27;s Skype&quot; is not cool anymore. There are much better options available.
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haddr超过 9 年前
Skype on Linux is far inferior recently. Mostly due to the fact that the Linux version has been somehow abandoned. It haven&#x27;t received updates since at least 1 year. For example, one recent change is that when someone sends a picture, on Linux you are sent a link to it, where you have to go to the Skype website and login in order to view it (and login each time you open a link). Sometimes it&#x27;s a resized version of the picture which makes things worse. Another thing is the screen sharing. On Linux you can&#x27;t share screen with more that 1 person, making it useless for telcos at work. And there is much more...
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cm3超过 9 年前
For an excellent and disruption-free experience I use Mumble and if I have to WebRTC, but the browser experience isn&#x27;t as stable, performant and reliable. Nothing beats Mumble if video isn&#x27;t a requirement. You can join free Mumble servers, host your own or rent a server. It&#x27;s open source, so you&#x27;re not at the whim of a company and integration with your operating system is much better.<p>update 1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.mumble.info&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Features" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.mumble.info&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Features</a> It has encryption which cannot be disabled and the advanced audio features make it well suited for reliable and pleasant day to day use. It&#x27;s low-latency and instead of a centrally managed contact database like most commercial services have Mumble uses certificates for authentication and identification of your friends across servers.<p>update 2: There are alternative server implementations, one in C and another one in Go, meant to run on OpenWRT in terms of hardware requirements.
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apatters超过 9 年前
If the claim that the Linux client is no longer able to join calls is true, I think the Skype team really needs to respond.<p>Microsoft has been doing all sorts of cool things lately and it&#x27;s odd that the Skype team hasn&#x27;t been a part of this movement toward a modern, multi-platform world.<p>In my little corner of that world as the owner of an agency which spends money on Skype credit every day and uses Skype for a healthy part of our business communications, if Linux users start having trouble connecting to calls we are done with Skype immediately. There are enough alternatives out there nowadays that we will drop this tool.
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pentae超过 9 年前
What I don’t understand is - Why is there not a serious competitor to Skype?<p>If there was a cross-platform Skype clone that worked on OSX, Linux, Windows, iOS and Android that was stable and secure - the whole world would jump onto it. All it has to do is not be a bloated piece of crap like Skype.<p>Instead, everything else out there is fragmented.<p>We’re all waiting, get on it already!
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SunShiranui超过 9 年前
Skype has been getting worse and worse over the years. Personally I&#x27;ve switched to Telegram for chats, and I&#x27;ll be looking for alternatives as far as voice calls are concerned.
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mrmondo超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m surprised people still even use Skype, I went really down hill around 5 or so years ago. It&#x27;s slow, bulky, closed source and it has been disclosed by Edward Snowden and Wikileaks to have ties directly into the prism program with the NSA.
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i336_超过 9 年前
While I&#x27;m unsure about the inability to join calls, I can at least agree that the Linux client is terrible.<p>I finally caved a few months ago, got an account, and started using it (&quot;oh wow it handles &#x27;s&#x2F;woops&#x2F;fixed&#x2F;&#x27;, that&#x27;s awesome&quot;)... until the client began freezing, chewing 100% CPU for as long as I patiently left it running, and not getting itself sorted out. Removing ~&#x2F;.Skype (XDG, anybody?) and re-signing in worked... for about 3 minutes, at which point my profile data re-synced, and the client began choking again.<p>Last I tried the Web-integrated version (Skype icon, top-right of outlook.com et. al., takes a minute to become clickable) I couldn&#x27;t even type &quot;&#x2F;me ...&quot; - the line would send verbatim. At that point I gave up completely.<p>I used to use IRC but I find it too Spartan nowadays, but on the other hand I don&#x27;t want to have to remember what chat tab is in what window, and I can&#x27;t handle the idea of running 15 isolated instances of Webkit for all the separate chat systems out there, so that kills websites and most current &quot;desktop&quot; chat clients.<p>I don&#x27;t use the Internet to communicate much, somewhat ironically. Everything drives me to distraction.<p>Notes:<p>- XDG: TL;DR = says stuff should be in ~&#x2F;.config, ~&#x2F;.cache, etc. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.archlinux.org&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;XDG_Base_Directory_support" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.archlinux.org&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;XDG_Base_Directory_supp...</a><p>- I cannot help but admire the reverse-engineering going on at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;EionRobb&#x2F;skype4pidgin&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;skypeweb#skypeweb-plugin-for-pidgin" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;EionRobb&#x2F;skype4pidgin&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;skypewe...</a> to make the outlook&#x2F;skype web integration programmatically consumable. I have no idea how it works but the commits are very recent, which is a big positive sign.
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lawl超过 9 年前
I use web.skype.com these days. I don&#x27;t want that piece of crapware installed on my box, as I don&#x27;t trust it.<p>The web client works well enough for chat so I can talk to my friends who don&#x27;t want to move away from it.<p>It does however not support calls since for some reason it needs a browser plugin for that. WebRTC would clearly be too easy. So I just link people a Firefox Hello link whenever they want to use voice.
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_druu超过 9 年前
Would&#x27;ve retweeted if it wasn&#x27;t for the #thanksBill hashtag...<p>I haven&#x27;t been on Windoze since I don&#x27;t know how long. And the Mac Client is superb. Linux client, absolute desaster, indeed.<p>But still, this has absolutely nothing to do with Bill.
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balabaster超过 9 年前
There are viable alternatives to Skype.<p>I&#x27;ve been using Slack (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slack.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slack.com&#x2F;</a>) for a while too... it does everything useful that you could ask of a chat application and works very much like IRC worked back in the day. Everything it doesn&#x27;t do natively, there&#x27;s an integration for, just like with IRC bots.<p>You can do:<p>- Private chat with one or more parties<p>- Open Group chat via channels (both private and public channels)<p>- Voice&#x2F;Video via numerous integrations including Bluejeans, Appear.in, Skype, Hangouts, you name it.<p>- ChatOps via services like IFTT &amp; Zapier or even your own custom bridge into your network.<p>- Get notifications right in Slack from your source control, build servers, JIRA, Confluence and any number of other services via webhook integrations.<p>- A billion other wicked cool integrations (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slack.com&#x2F;apps" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slack.com&#x2F;apps</a>) that allow you to do just about anything, including the eternally useless, often inappropriate and highly amusing Giphy.<p>- It&#x27;s free(ish)... the featureset is restricted on the free account, but even with the free account it has enough to be seriously useful to even loosely defined teams of adhoc members. For enterprise requirements there is a small per user&#x2F;per month charge which unlocks a wealth of enterprise ready features.<p>- It&#x27;s archivable &amp; searchable<p>Highly recommended and well worth a look for small and large teams alike.<p>It&#x27;s more targeted at teams, but for circles of friends, it works nicely too. Because of the way it&#x27;s structured, it works more like a web based, centrally hosted IRC server than Skype, as such it doesn&#x27;t really have the same network effect, but it&#x27;s so much more flexible than Skype in every other respect.
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mcs_超过 9 年前
46 active contacts and 12 blocked account in my Skype 4.3.0.37 (2014 Skype and&#x2F;or Microsoft Patents Pending)<p>Family: Wife (mac), Mom(ubuntu) and Sister(win) All - Family = work or business (i can safely say that 90% are OS from MS).<p>Do I want all those contacts in my slack ? No i don&#x27;t.<p>Do I want to change to another <i>very powerful</i> chat system? Well, sometimes connect sqlite3 to find a conversation is not really what i want to do but the problem is to use chat system as storage for important communication so, No I don&#x27;t what another shitty chat system.<p>My &quot;rest folder&quot; contains current work, future work, very good and bad work experiences from the past and maybe unplanned new jobs.<p>People are still there in green every morning cause they may want support or want to give jobs and after they pay they tends to use less email and more (shitty) chat systems.<p>In my case skype is only for work and i don&#x27;t what to confuse the clear skype sound in my phone with something else that the work. Remove those contacts today means lose money tomorrow, i cannot remove that program and it is immediately installed after vim and git.<p>So after declaring to be a slave of skype like many others, I don&#x27;t ask microsoft to change it, to fix it, to improve it or do it more cool or modern. I ask for my freedom: We need public, usable and having a sane license API to build something _better_ around it and remove that green icon from the status bar or my GNU&#x2F;Linux Mint.
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StreamBright超过 9 年前
My biggest disappointment with the business version the fact that it is impossible to turn off the pop up notification when somebody logs in or out from Skype. Before you post me URL from the support website, non of them works, everybody in the office (10+ engineers) tried to disable this but no success. The only way you block that is to put yourself into do not disturb mode, but than non of the legitimate notifications are displayed either. Skype for business is a perfect distraction tool without providing any quality or functionality that other software already have. I just do not understand that in 2016 MS is at this level when it comes to user experience after being in the user facing software business over 40 years.
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edent超过 9 年前
This is very disappointing. Skype has been one of those &quot;just works&quot; solutions for calling distant family members - even if they&#x27;re running underpowered hardware.<p>I currently use <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tel.red&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tel.red&#x2F;</a> to connect to Lync &#x2F; &quot;Skype for Business&quot; on Linux. I wonder if that&#x27;s a possible solution?
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lyncisnice超过 9 年前
Is this a surprise, really?<p>Lync (their custom, completely incompatibile VOIP solution sold to -- idiots, essentially) only works half-decently on windows. There&#x27;s an OSX option, but it&#x27;s just a factual checklist on the product spec, as in reality it&#x27;s garbage.<p>The best part, is that &quot;skype for business&quot; actually lowers the quality of the product even more. I had my own set of issues with Lync, but it just doubled since we had to transition.<p>And that&#x27;s for the &quot;business&quot; side.
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gravypod超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve seen my friends slowly drift away from Skype. At this point when I install a new operating system, I just use web.skype.com to get in touch with my friends that haven&#x27;&#x27;t moved onto something else. It works the same on all platforms, but I don&#x27;t know if many people know about the web client.<p>It&#x27;s really helpful.
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oever超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m a happy user of VOIP. Instead of using skype, I use SIP for which there are many computer programs. A good convenient program is CSipSimple.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;f-droid.org&#x2F;repository&#x2F;browse&#x2F;?fdid=com.csipsimple" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;f-droid.org&#x2F;repository&#x2F;browse&#x2F;?fdid=com.csipsimple</a>
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Zash超过 9 年前
Skype hasn&#x27;t been a pain on Linux since the Microsoft takeover. It was a huge pain long before.<p>XMPP with <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;swift.im&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;swift.im&#x2F;</a> and <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;conversations.im&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;conversations.im&#x2F;</a> is much more pleasant.
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ecopoesis超过 9 年前
Skype on the Mac is also terrible.<p>* Doesn&#x27;t integrate with Keychain, so I always have to login. * When logging in, pressing TAB when in the username field submits the form rather then go to password field. * Now I&#x27;ve failed my login enough that I need to reset my password. And Live doesn&#x27;t let me reuse an old password, guaranteeing I&#x27;ll lock myself out next time. * Even better, my Xbox won&#x27;t login in now, so I either have to do this stupid dance again, or just use the Playstation.
edent超过 9 年前
&gt; but starting from February 22 the Linux client is unable to join calls<p>Hmmm... My Linux client just made a successful voice &amp; video call to an OSX Skype client.<p>While it would be nice if Skype was properly maintained, I&#x27;m not sure quite what the &quot;unable to join calls&quot; bit is all about.
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spronkey超过 9 年前
It&#x27;s not just the Linux client. The Windows client has terrible usability issues too.
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coldtea超过 9 年前
&gt;<i>Skype keeps ignoring people who complain or are having issues with Linux client</i><p>Well, if they are too few and far between compared to Windows, OS X, iOS and Android then it makes sense. Opportunity cost et al.<p>And, while it&#x27;s often brought up, I think that when it comes to consumer products (as opposed to server and dev stuff) Linux users don&#x27;t really have some kind of &quot;extra-influence&quot; to compensate for being a niche group.
binarez超过 9 年前
Some (most?) of my contacts are not showing up online when I use the official Skype client on Linux. I use the web client:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.skype.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.skype.com&#x2F;</a>
joeyspn超过 9 年前
Meet Jitsi...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;meet.jit.si&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;meet.jit.si&#x2F;</a><p>It&#x27;s a nice FOSS alternative for group calling.
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farresito超过 9 年前
The Linux client is pretty disappointing, to be honest. The only reason I keep using Skype is because of friends using it.
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washadjeffmad超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve never used Skype. Is there something it does better or differently than any other VOIP&#x2F;messaging client that&#x27;s made their poor Linux support such a popular issue, other than it was better before Windows bought it?<p>My current daily means of communication on Linux is Google Voice&#x2F;Hangouts, but I&#x27;ve also used others over the years, like GnomeMeeting&#x2F;Ekiga, TeamViewer, and TeamSpeak. They&#x27;ve all worked fairly easily and without issue. With all the options, could someone explain why Skype matters?
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ohitsdom超过 9 年前
Skype on Windows is awful. Frequent crashes, shared screens drop all the time, and very inefficient. Only reason it&#x27;s not uninstalled is that we have to use it at work.
theinternetman超过 9 年前
Skype feels like it runs just as well on my brand new laptop as it used to do on my 9 year old machine.<p>As in not well at all and whenever any progress has been made with computing speed the Skype team have refactored their app to perform just as poorly on the new hardware.<p>Also why is the &quot;Skype Home&quot; part of the app just a facebook advert? I don&#x27;t have an FB account so Skype tells me to get one every time I open it. Seemingly FB is more important than my contacts.
bronlund超过 9 年前
Why people use Skype is beyond me.
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kelvin0超过 9 年前
Under the best of circumstances, Skype on WINDOWS is at best barely functional (I know we use it every day for remote business meetings). So I can hardly be surprised any other OS&#x27;s client is so broken ... 8.5 Billion! <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;05&#x2F;microsoft-buys-skype-2&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;05&#x2F;microsoft-buys-skype-2&#x2F;</a>
matzipan超过 9 年前
The Skype app crashes so frequently. When it finally decides to work, the microphone doesn&#x27;t work. If you feel really really brave, you can try putting the app to background, except that might cause your video feed to not work anymore. Remember those files somebody sent you 3 months ago? Well, you haven&#x27;t recieved them on this device yet. This is true for Windows, Linux and Android. In an update about a month ago, Windows 10 introduced the &quot;Messaging&quot; and &quot;Video&quot; apps. Which were both based on Skype infrastructure. They.didn&#x27;t.work. Which makes me wonder if they ever tested them before even releasing them.<p>To be fair, Hangouts has gotten a bit better, but it still feels like there&#x27;s nobody actually actively working on any of the apps. Or at least, nobody who is working on the app dogfoods it. But this app is no stranger to ignoring your microphone, or showing you that you&#x27;re still in a conversation which has ended several hours ago.<p>Facebook Messenger has not disappointed me yet, which might make it the strongest and most stable contender to date.
gargravarr超过 9 年前
Not sure I understand the issue here, can someone summarise? Yes, Skype is an utter POS on Linux (90s UI, total incompatibility with any of the fancy things like picture sharing, inability to join group calls etc.) but the link implies the client can no longer participate in calls. I was chatting to a friend just yesterday via the Linux client - they called me and I accepted the call.
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snowpanda超过 9 年前
I had to use Skype for work a lot. But things like this and the fact that I don&#x27;t trust Skype enough to install it, kept me from using it.<p>So at the time I bought the cheapest Android phone I could find and used it just for Skype, it didnt even have a sim card. And I was always easy to reach for coworkers.<p>Hopefully this helps someone else in the same position. Luckily I dont have to use Skype anymore.
flurdy超过 9 年前
And this is a surprise?
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Kenji超过 9 年前
They keep ignoring all their users, Windows too. A couple of weeks ago, they shipped a completely broken version that would crash regularly and scramble the message order randomly if the messages were sent within ~1 minute. Hello QA? Where are you? Hello beta testing? You cannot ship a program this broken to all your users?!
nik736超过 9 年前
The Mac OS client is COMPLETELY BROKEN. Message orders change constantly, if you type fast the messages are jumping up and down constantly which is annoying since the order sometimes gets messed up.<p>Also the background colours of messages are bugged, sometimes my messages are grey, instead of being blue as they should be.<p>What the fuck?
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chtfn超过 9 年前
I recommend trying jitsi (meet.jit.si) for conferences with features. Ring is a new one, that looks very promising for secure multiplatform p2p one-on-one communication. (ring.cx) On my phone, I use CsipSimple with my trusty VOIP provider Diamondcard.us.
gurra超过 9 年前
Some of my contact lists disappeared the other day. I am using Skype 4.3 on Ubuntu 14.04. I am trying to move most of my communication to Slack, but some clients and friends are still on Skype which makes this a pain for me.
buro9超过 9 年前
I have to do a fair number of remote interviews, and Skype is the way this is supposed to happen.<p>I also use Linux.<p>The net result is that Skype is not how this happens. I usually just offer Google Hangouts as an alternative or phone the person.
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ghostek超过 9 年前
Skype for Linux was declared dead under Palmer&#x27;s, resources reduced to a minimum and new versions and features blocked. Skype CEOs and CTOs at that time are equally responsible, made millions and disappeared. It&#x27;s been an uphill battle since, you can found some linux developers on LinkedIn and ask them. A joke that goes around is that Skype could die soon this year unless it turns profitable. Anyway, from a business perspective MS doesn&#x27;t understand or value Linux desktop, so nothing to be surprised here.
rciorba超过 9 年前
Great! I hope this way less and less people will expect me to use skype.
Aoyagi超过 9 年前
Good. The sooner Skype ends, the better.
ck2超过 9 年前
Twitter is a technical support system for Skype? For anything?<p>What&#x27;s with &quot;ThanksBill&quot; - meaning Bill Gates? What has he had anything to do with modern Microsoft for the past decade?
martin-adams超过 9 年前
&gt;&gt; but starting from February 22 the Linux client is unable to join calls<p>My colleague using Ubuntu managed to join a call I made to her with no issue. There must be more to it I guess.
sean-duffy超过 9 年前
When I used to use Skype on OSX I always hated it, people talk about iTunes being bloatware but the amount of resources Skype used was obscene. The final straw was a bug they never fixed that would log me out of Facebook in Safari every time I opened Skype. It was something to do with the fact that I&#x27;d foolishly linked my Skype and Facebook accounts in the past, I&#x27;m not sure if even to this day they ever fixed that.
jayarcanum超过 9 年前
Skype on linux is akin to taking fertility drugs on birth control. It&#x27;s super dumb and always feels dirty for no reason. It installs 127 packages and then removes only 112, leaving me saying I knew this was a mistake so that I could waste 15 minutes with TopTal because they can&#x27;t get on a hangout. Skype is owned by the original nerd&#x27;s evil empire what do you expect. Never should have tainted my system...
neppo超过 9 年前
I started using appear.in for quick video telephony.<p>The beauty with this one is that you don&#x27;t need an account, you just send a invitation link via slack or mail
stuaxo超过 9 年前
That is really poor, I have skype credit for when I go abroad and need to call the UK from a local number (e.g. Real good with banks or utilities).
rekoros超过 9 年前
Just a note that you can use any other client supported by <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;sameroom.io" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;sameroom.io</a> to connect to Skype.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sameroom.io&#x2F;attend" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sameroom.io&#x2F;attend</a> lets you auto-create Slack channels for each incoming Skype conversation.<p>We have some individual use discounts - just ask in support.
dschiptsov超过 9 年前
Why, it is Microsoft. Rudimentary Linux support is mere PR actions, be it for Skype or .Net or whatever.<p>Their strategy, obviously, is still platform lock-in.
minusSeven超过 9 年前
This is not just limited to linux. I use skype occasionally on blackberry and their app on blackberry is despicable. They made slight bug fixes 6 months back after some 2 years of not updating the app. Now it works but still experience lot of crashes. They never bothered to release a native app and people just the android ported one.
CSDude超过 9 年前
Skype is far inferior to any competitor. I just send a link to people through <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apprtc.appspot.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apprtc.appspot.com&#x2F;</a> to have better video call experience. Skype does not even keep track of notifications cross devices. It was way better in the old days.
vasili111超过 9 年前
The reality is that, Skype is a kind of software that is better to use Windows version + WINE than native Linux version.
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sandGorgon超过 9 年前
yes the linux client sucks... bu the OTHER linux client (i.e. Android) works beautifully. Which is why I cant wait for things like RemixOS or Intel&#x27;s Android Linux [1]. With predictions that mobile chips will approach PS4 performance in 2017 [2], I cant help but wonder again if Valve made a colossal mistake in not basing SteamOS on desktop android.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;liliputing.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;intels-android-smartphone-prototype-is-also-a-linux-desktop-pc.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;liliputing.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;intels-android-smartphone-prot...</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;venturebeat.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;16&#x2F;mobile-devices-will-be-more-powerful-than-playstation-4-xbox-one-in-2017-arm-forecasts&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;venturebeat.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;16&#x2F;mobile-devices-will-be-mor...</a>
Gratsby超过 9 年前
Wow. My previous job had no phones only skype and most of us just had linux on our desktops.<p>There is a solution - Cisco Jabber. They have a hosted solution now. I can&#x27;t find a link currently and I haven&#x27;t used it since we have it on-premise. But I did talk with someone recently who worked on their cloud product.
Houshalter超过 9 年前
Skype on Windows is also a disaster. I only use it to instant message, not call, and it still takes multiple minutes to start up. I really want an alternative but have been lazy about making the switch. Maybe today will be the day I do that. Any good alternative IM clients with cross platform support?
t0mislav超过 9 年前
It&#x27;s time to simply abandon this sucker. It won&#x27;t be easy, but I hope better alternative will emerge.
ryanlol超过 9 年前
Does the OS X client work well for anyone else?<p>I keep having inability to join calls, getting stuck in calls and at worst even having the client say I&#x27;m not in any calls and no sound coming out of my speakers while others can still see me in the call and <i>hear my microphone</i>.
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lucb1e超过 9 年前
Honestly I&#x27;m really happy they haven&#x27;t updated the client. Looking at the Windows client, I was happy they left a more serious and professional client for the Linux users.<p>Of course when you can&#x27;t make calls anymore, it might be time to update the failing component...
odbol_超过 9 年前
Oh come on, they ignore people who complain about the iOS client too. They just ignore everyone and refuse to iterate or innovate. Personally, I don&#x27;t understand why people pay to use them when Google Hangouts has so many better features and a clearer UI.
Sir_Substance超过 9 年前
The deep irony of this is that I prefer the linux client to the windows one (or did until it broke, haven&#x27;t tried to make a call recently), because it is ad free, clean and simple. I wish there was a reverse-wine I could use to run it on windows.
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andrey_utkin超过 9 年前
Sounds like great justification for my business contacts why I cannot have a voice call in Skype with them. Could anybody please give a link to official bugreport or serious announcement about breakage of calls?<p>User of XMPP (Jabber) with transport to Skype.
tome超过 9 年前
The quality of outbound calls to telephones (&quot;Skype Out&quot; I think) has dropped markedly recently. My respondants can&#x27;t hear me about half the time. The quality seems to come and go by the week.
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nickforall超过 9 年前
Thank you very much for sharing, we&#x27;re overwhelmed by all the tweets.
exo762超过 9 年前
Microsoft is doing a service to all of us by destroying Skype. Nobody should use it anyway from the moment MS has bought it with sole purpose of handing data over to NSA&amp;Friends.
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georgeek超过 9 年前
They might be pushing users away from the Linux&#x2F;Mac apps towads an online version of skype. Which is actually the easiest way to use their service, when you absolutely have to.
jaimehrubiks超过 9 年前
Discord is the best alternative, or at least it will be. It lacks 1to1 calls yet but they will be implemented. There are no plans for video or screen share yet i think though
toxican超过 9 年前
The longer MS ignores Skype on linux, the happier I&#x27;ll be. Unlike the Windows version, it&#x27;s at least usable and a great deal more stable (in my experience, anyway)
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gog超过 9 年前
Anbody have expirience with alternatives that provide group voice calls and support all platforms (win,linux,osx,ios,android)?<p>Group calls are the only thing I use Skype for...
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svendlarssen超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve been complaining since Nov last year without any result. It&#x27;s terrible and I really hope Skype will do something about it.
maweki超过 9 年前
I can no longer log in into skype for linux. Using the same username&#x2F;password on Android works fine. No use in the Linux client.
amelius超过 9 年前
How well does video chatting work within the browser nowadays? If it works well, then I would say Skype&#x27;s days are numbered.
slizard超过 9 年前
Not sure if they fixed it in the meantime, but it work for me right now with client version 4.3.0.37.
gerardnll超过 9 年前
MacOS is also a competidor and I don&#x27;t have any issues with it neither Skype has stopped updating the app.
mikescandy超过 9 年前
I guess the userbase is not worth investing. (As a Windows phone user, this is something I hear quite often)
Shorel超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m glad it still works.<p>Web skype is my fail-safe, but of course it will have no audio or video.
_pmf_超过 9 年前
&gt; Skype keeps ignoring people who complain or are having issues with Linux client<p>All 234 of them!
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shmerl超过 9 年前
Don&#x27;t complain. Ditch it.
mindo超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m surprised M$ haven&#x27;t killed skype like the next day they bought it as they often do when they buy&#x2F;take over companies and their products.<p>Skype is actually the only M$ product I use, and I would be more than happy to move to anything else as long as there would be a good alternative to it...
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cevaris超过 9 年前
At this point isnt&#x27;t like asking Microsoft to port over Word to Linux?
PaulHoule超过 9 年前
Skype is getting pretty bad on windows too. Try it on a PlayStation vita.
moonbug超过 9 年前
The only good communications program MS has ever produced is Comic Chat.
jaimehrubiks超过 9 年前
Skype was a grate sofware, now it is just a sad and buggy software
stuaxo超过 9 年前
I took a call on it an hour ago, seems to be working fine ?
kempe超过 9 年前
Skype always crashes when you log of a windows machine.
sbose78超过 9 年前
If you are using for work, I would recommend HipChat !
superskierpat超过 9 年前
Cant wait for the various tox clients to stabilize.
betimsl超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m a Linux user and I don&#x27;t sign that.
mnml_超过 9 年前
Facebook for work will be #1 in a few years
andreapaiola超过 9 年前
Obviously... It&#x27;s Microsoft...
ddade超过 9 年前
OK, Google Voice it is, then.
Ace17超过 9 年前
Time to switch to Tox-im!
aurelien超过 9 年前
ignore skype and use ekiga.
rhabarba超过 9 年前
How many Linux issues are required before people stop using Linux?
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