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Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

599 点作者 tasoeur大约 9 年前

59 条评论

fpgaminer大约 9 年前
With Windows 10 doing things like this, and Windows 7 being aggressively deprecated, I decided I finally wanted to ditch Windows as my daily driver. It was good timing, then, that I watched the &quot;7 Gamers 1 CPU&quot; video from LinuxTechTips, which showed me how to do it without sacrificing gaming.<p>Most everything I use runs in Linux, and for the few things that don&#x27;t I can spin up a VM. But there&#x27;s the caveat that is as old as Windows itself ... gaming. Dual booting isn&#x27;t an option for me, because I tend to run various server VMs 24&#x2F;7. I also didn&#x27;t want a second tower just for Windows; that&#x27;s non-ideal. But wait! Apparently modern CPUs have this fancy thing called IOMMU I never knew about, which lets you give direct access to PCI-E devices, like GPUs, to a VM.<p>So I bought up a 5820K, a X99 motherboard, and an extra graphics card, and away I went. I now have Arch Linux running as the host system where I do all my work. Windows 10 sits in a VM where it&#x27;s given direct and exclusive access to a GTX 970 for graphics. So far, things are working well and Windows runs the benchmark apps just fine.<p>The end result is that I can use Linux as my daily driver, but flip over to my Windows VM whenever I want to game. It keeps Windows isolated, which is great from a privacy&#x2F;security perspective, I don&#x27;t have to dual-boot, and best of all I can spin up different VMs if I want to use the beastly GTX 970 for other work like machine learning. Thanks to using the 5820K which has a few Xeon features in it, the entire process when smoothly. The biggest caveat is I haven&#x27;t found a DisplayPort switch yet, so I can&#x27;t hook up the Windows VM to my primary Cinema monitor, and I haven&#x27;t nailed down the mouse+keyboard thing yet. QEMU&#x27;s virtual mouse+keyboard doesn&#x27;t normally work with these kinds of VMs, so you have to hack it in, and even then it likes to randomly stop working. I could just grab a second set of physical mouse+keyboard but that&#x27;s not ideal. Steam Steaming will probably be the best option for now.
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gargravarr大约 9 年前
Seems like the only way people want to make money these days is through invasive advertising without the end-user&#x27;s explicit consent. Granted the expectation of free software is driving most of this, but it starts a vicious cycle because those who get annoyed with them develop countermeasures, which the creator responds to with more aggressive ads, ad infinitum.<p>It does start explaining some of the highly controversial telemetry MS was collecting in Win10 - turning everyone&#x27;s PCs into billboards.
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dangrossman大约 9 年前
Microsoft added the Spotlight feature last year, and this is pretty much exactly what it was billed as: if you don&#x27;t have a lock screen image of your own, you get random wallpaper images from Bing, and also occasional app offers and tips. You can upvote&#x2F;downvote the offers to personalize the suggestions in the future. It&#x27;s an app discovery mechanism, and you can turn it off by picking your own lock screen image. I don&#x27;t know why it&#x27;s only in the news now. This isn&#x27;t the first time wallpapers for an app have been in the rotation.
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userbinator大约 9 年前
Does anyone find it unpleasant how these new OSs are increasingly embedding online content everywhere, presumably opening many network connections and using bandwidth while increasing attack area unnecessarily? The start screen tiles in Win8, which continue into Win10&#x27;s start menu, are the most obvious example here.<p>It isn&#x27;t that I hate the Internet or anything like that; I&#x27;ve certainly spent long hours online visiting various sites. Nonetheless, the idea of some parts of the OS that --- by default and with no explicit action of the user --- at some undisclosed time, reaching out somewhere to some server that I have no idea of, and retrieving content to be rendered on my machine, just doesn&#x27;t feel right to me. If some of that &quot;promiscuity&quot; resulted in malware being installed, it would be extremely difficult to determine the cause; according to the list in <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10053622" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10053622</a> , Windows 10 by default contacts a rather large list of domains, many of which are third-party and not even Microsoft-controlled.<p>As I write this post I have a total of <i>one</i> network connection from my machine, an IM client; and at all times I am aware of what connections it&#x27;s making, and which processes are doing it, so there is nothing unaccounted for. That&#x27;s the way I like it --- my machine does not &quot;talk to strangers&quot; without me being unaware.
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bendykstra大约 9 年前
I was shocked and very worried when ads for Microsoft Office started popping up in the Action Center (10&#x27;s centralized notification area) last year. When I wrote about my concerns on a Windows forum, most pf the responses were along the lines of, &quot;why are you complaining, Windows 10 is free.&quot; If people no longer feel that they own their operating systems, then there is no check on Microsoft&#x27;s behavior. Inevitably, ads will become personalized and telemetry that Microsoft now uses to improve the operating system will be used to improve ads. The challenges to privacy that we currently experience online will expand to the desktop.
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djsumdog大约 9 年前
I really don&#x27;t like this direction that MS is heading. I&#x27;d rather they charger for Windows 10 and newer and not start bundling software and pushing ads by default.<p>Also, fuck buying games off the Windows store, Steam and any other service that locks you into DRM. My steam client in Linux is hopelessly broken due to updates. Some of my games will still play, but most require the stupid Steam DRM layer. I should have bought them off Humble instead.
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kozukumi大约 9 年前
Ever since switching to Windows 10 I have found myself using Ubuntu more and more. To the point where I mostly boot Windows 10 once a week just to keep it and some software up to date.<p>I like some things about Windows 10, for example the new snap features for programs is nice, overall the system looks quite nice as well. Their virtual desktop implementation is kind of lacking but at least it is there. Explorer is actually quite decent these days as well.<p>However it just keeps pissing me off. I use SumatraPDF as my PDF reader, it is a great program. I can&#x27;t think of a time when it hasn&#x27;t worked perfectly yet for the 5th time now Windows has <i>helpfully</i> informed me it <i>had</i> to restore Edge as the default PDF reader for &quot;reasons&quot;, of course I have no idea what these reasons are!<p>I have Office 2016 installed and yet the stupid &quot;Get Office 365&quot; bullshit constantly nags me and <i>reinstalls</i> itself when the Store does some background updating. I had to hunt down a bloody PowerShell command to <i>force</i> remove it.<p>Oh yes and in Microsoft&#x27;s infinite wisdom they auto-install Twitter and Candy Crush Saga on my so-called &quot;Professional&quot; version of Windows <i>which I paid for on a new machine</i>!<p>Honestly it is a fucking horrible experience. Their own modern Universal apps are garbage. They release these totally <i>shit</i> apps with the idea that &quot;oh we can update constantly via the Store!&quot; but the apps they are releasing are just plain awful. I have used tech demos that work better ffs.<p>I honestly can&#x27;t stand the Windows 10 experience. The new way of doing things is just horrible. I end up using Windows 10 just like I used Windows 7&#x2F;8 with Win32 apps because there are still not any good Universal apps as the platform is just garbage by the looks of it. I mean if the <i>maker</i> of the platform can&#x27;t even make decent apps what does that say about the platform?!<p>Ubuntu isn&#x27;t perfect but at least it doesn&#x27;t fuck with me every other day to the point where I just want to walk away from the computer.<p>Yes Linux still has some rough around the edges but I have found that installing Chrome makes everything web-related &quot;just work&quot; as well as on Windows. Netflix? Check! Flash? Check! Also TIS-100 has a Linux version so that keeps me happy :)
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CurtHagenlocher大约 9 年前
I didn&#x27;t even realize that it was an advertisement. But if it is, it&#x27;s not the first one. The Beatles images shown in December were then probably also technically ads for the just-released-on-streaming Beatles catalog.<p>Disclosures: I work at Microsoft and really don&#x27;t like advertising-supported products.
ccvannorman大约 9 年前
I still remember the last time I used Windows (outside of a VM for testing.) I had been given a Surface to develop on for my video game. At one point, it started playing an advertisement as a part of the operating experience. My reaction:<p>1. What is happening?<p>2. Why is this happening?<p>3. How do I shut this off?<p>4. Who the hell decided this was a good idea?<p>5. Where&#x27;s the nearest trash bin?
nikbackm大约 9 年前
That particular example does not seem too bad.<p>I personally would have just assumed the ad to be yet another random lock screen image. Which I like for the most part.
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makecheck大约 9 年前
When I was a kid and learning basic manners, there were certain things taught that separated good from bad.<p>And you know, advertising methods are starting to look a lot like pure <i>rudeness</i> to me.<p>It wouldn’t be socially acceptable to walk up to somebody sitting on a park bench and just start randomly bothering them. It wouldn’t be socially acceptable to just start dumping signs all over someone’s front porch and gluing them to the windows of the house. Why, then, aren’t companies downright <i>ashamed</i> (and publicly shamed) when they create a product that feels the need to periodically pop messages in front of the user’s face that are by definition completely unnecessary to the function of the product?<p>Build a product; make it nice; make it functional; and make it show things to the user only when necessary. Anything else is mere distraction, and frankly taints the product’s perceived value.<p>We are spiraling down into a cesspool of “free” products that tax users with a thousand needles every day.<p>We used to know how to pay $40 for software, or even $10, and demand better. We need to return to that.
stillsut大约 9 年前
And look what Google did with Chromecast - beautiful, national geographic style pictures you could sit and watch for hours. Clearly there&#x27;s a team spending money at Google to create the best experience for me.<p>If I went into a business meeting and Laura Croft showed up as my screen saver so MS could pocket $0.000001 for showing me an ad I would go ballistic. And I&#x27;m a MS guy. It&#x27;s these type of shortsighted ad-in-the-os decisions which are making me doubt the future of MS as a serious company.
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dethos大约 9 年前
This is the price for the &quot;free&quot; upgrade to windows 10.<p>I really don&#x27;t like this trend of turning your personal computer into a thin client, where its properties can be manipulated remotely by the vendor like if it was a web app.<p>This is why I stayed away of products like Windows 10 and ChromeOS.
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AdmiralAsshat大约 9 年前
Probably a good time to remind people about ReactOS: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reactos.org&#x2F;project-news&#x2F;reactos-040-released" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reactos.org&#x2F;project-news&#x2F;reactos-040-released</a><p>One day it may be the only way to use Windows programs without this kind of end-user harassment.
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proactivesvcs大约 9 年前
Malware straight to the lock screen now? Wow. This behaviour just goes to show the advertising industry still has no idea about real-world concerns and opinions on advertising. I wonder how long it&#x27;ll take for this to start getting farmed out to malware brokers&#x2F;bidding platforms that Microsoft&#x27;s MSN uses, such as AppNexus, AdSpirit etc.
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gravypod大约 9 年前
&quot;When the item is free, you are the product&quot; is the lesson of this past decade. I am at least repeatedly learning this over and over again.
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aresant大约 9 年前
It&#x27;s so funny to watch MSFT completely miss the lessons that have turned Google into the World&#x27;s Most Valuable Advertising Business.<p>HEY YOU GUYS LETS PLASTER ADVERTISING ALL OVER ALL OF THE THINGS!<p>Look at Gmail: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;M8RF1TV" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;M8RF1TV</a><p>Look at Yahoo Mail: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;Cjwxspc" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;Cjwxspc</a><p>Look at AOL Mail: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;ZeaIe1L" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;ZeaIe1L</a><p>Which email product do you use?<p>Which would you rather use?<p>The advertising business that is sustainable is owning the user at a moment of high-intent, aka SEARCH.<p>Slapping ads all over my login page is a great way render the fat from brand advertisers into short-term revenue gains at the price of ENRAGING me.<p>MSFT get the tracking and the ads the fuck out of my kitchen and my OS or at least give me a REAL way to pay you for a clean, no ad version!
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pasbesoin大约 9 年前
Recently, I bought one of the cheapo Amazon tablets to have a &quot;beater&quot; I didn&#x27;t need to worry about.<p>Sure, the price was nice. But the full-page ad upon every lock screen, that is too easy to trigger into video play when trying to swipe to unlock, has rather put me off.<p>I won&#x27;t be buying another Amazon tablet. And I&#x27;m glad I never got one of their phones -- I shudder to think.<p>It&#x27;s <i>my</i> computer &#x2F; tablet &#x2F; phone &#x2F; computing device. The more you work to make and demonstrate otherwise, the more I&#x27;m going to move away from you.<p>I just hope I keep having a choice. And I have to consider my individual role in making sure that is the case.
jfoster大约 9 年前
Seems like the &quot;new Microsoft&quot; honeymoon period has been brought to an abrupt end.<p>Did every single Windows 7 user get this? Perhaps they can recover from this by learning quickly from the backlash that&#x27;s about to happen.
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slavik81大约 9 年前
I&#x27;m more annoyed that they pop up desktop notifications just to advertise Office 365.
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acre88大约 9 年前
Aren&#x27;t plentiful, unrequested ads for games an integral part of Microsoft&#x27;s XBox systems? I don&#x27;t remember hearing too much outrage about those. Is that a different situation somehow?
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gdulli大约 9 年前
Kind of an alarmist headline for what&#x27;s essentially a screen saver type thing that&#x27;s set as the default but can be changed to something else.
Animats大约 9 年前
Can you buy an single enterprise version of Windows 10 without the ads and the snooping (&quot;telemetry&quot;)? How much does it cost? How do you buy it? Microsoft makes this info very hard to find.[1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;WindowsForBusiness&#x2F;windows-for-enterprise" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;WindowsForBusiness&#x2F;windows-f...</a>
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Sideloader大约 9 年前
One aspect of OS X I&#x27;ve always appreciated is the absence of bundled bloatware and obtrusive advertising. Sure, you can disable the ads and uninstall any unwanted software Microsoft is aggressively pushing on you, but how many people actually do this?<p>Most of my parent&#x27;s friends that I&#x27;ve helped to resolve OS issues don&#x27;t even try to find out how to switch off or delete Windows annoyances. Their machines are bogged down with junk that they don&#x27;t want or need and some suffer silently while others complain loudly, but very few from either camp take the initiative and learn how the OS works.<p>I don&#x27;t know what percentage of the Windows owning public is unable or unwilling to wrest control of their OS from default setting tyranny, but anecdotal evidence suggests it&#x27;s a not insignificant number.
voltagex_大约 9 年前
I haven&#x27;t seen this on the two devices I have running Windows 10 at home. I believe opting out of all the personalisation at <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;choice.microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;choice.microsoft.com</a> has stopped this &quot;feature&quot;.
dba7dba大约 9 年前
They are out of their minds. All of them.<p>Board of directors to ceo to product manager to project managers to designers to coders to the company that bought the advertising. All of them.
leeleelee大约 9 年前
I seem to remember some recent articles about MSFT which detailed how they had really turned things around. They&#x27;ve been missing the boat for years, and finally got their act together. They had a really aggressive goal for getting windows 10 on XYZ millions of devices by June or July this year. And now....this?! This does not fit Satya Nadella&#x27;s recent narrative. Why would MSFT do this?
sj4nz大约 9 年前
As always, the future moves closer and closer to Black Mirror&#x27;s S01E02.
brudgers大约 9 年前
Ubuntu baked Amazon products into Unity several years ago. Google bakes....well, where do I start? Anyway, this is the Microsoft everyone was screaming for...more just like everyone else. At least Facebook doesn&#x27;t inject ads into information about my friends...[puts finger to ear ala Jon Stewart]...what&#x27;s that?
ck2大约 9 年前
For those that want to make sure you never are forced upgraded to Windows 10<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ultimateoutsider.com&#x2F;downloads&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ultimateoutsider.com&#x2F;downloads&#x2F;</a><p>GWX Control Panel - blocks Windows 7&#x2F;8 from ever installing W10
aikah大约 9 年前
They are beating Google at their own game. I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if Google announced a real desktop OS, since they basically pulled the plug on Chrome OS and Android isn&#x27;t even fit for Tablet.<p>Microsoft is basically trying to outgoogle Google, and they are trying to do that at the OS level, not at the browser level. From a purely strategic standpoint this is brillant. From a user stand point it&#x27;s obnoxious of course, because good luck blocking ads if Microsoft decides Windows won&#x27;t allow you to. Clearly web advertising is drying up, so Native ads,i.e. at the OS level is where the growth is.<p>EDIT: correction
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toxican大约 9 年前
Kind of complete bullshit to do that, but at the same time it&#x27;s very easy to disable via settings. It&#x27;s not as though you have to tinker with the register or modify your hosts file or whatever else.
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apricot大约 9 年前
Amazing. This was exactly what we needed right now as a society. More ads.
wangchow大约 9 年前
It&#x27;s easy enough to disable the adds. Also check the Microsoft account and there are various preferences with toggle buttons associated with &quot;targeted ads.&quot; To be honest, some people like having targeted ads if it&#x27;s something consumers may be interested in.. Why not inform them?<p>And for those who don&#x27;t like them.. Just go through those settings and change them. As long as these ads are configurable it&#x27;s not a big deal.<p>That being said, if they became something customers can not opt out of that is a different story.
imgabe大约 9 年前
I&#x27;ve been using Windows 10 for a while now at work and I haven&#x27;t seen any ads yet. I was really enjoying the different pictures on the lock screen and the way you can like&#x2F;dislike them to get more of the types of pictures you like. If they start running ads on it and I have to disable it that&#x27;s going to be pretty sad. I mean, not really in the grand scheme of things, but it was a pleasant, enjoyable feature that made me like Windows. Why ruin it with ads?
finishingmove大约 9 年前
Well, this is exactly what I would expect if I left any &quot;Give me something random, I don&#x27;t want to think too much&quot; option activated. These are the first things I disable on any OS.<p>With that said, I recently switched my home PC to Linux. It was not due to the privacy issues, rather buggy experience (probably due to older hardware). Overall happy, although the UX in KDE 4 and Gnome 3.1x is still lagging behind Windows&#x2F;OS X noticeably IMHO.
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smegel大约 9 年前
Maybe now the Year of the Linux Desktop has truly arrived.
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JabavuAdams大约 9 年前
This is so anti-user it boggles the mind.
alistproducer2大约 9 年前
I will run Windows 7 as long as I can. When it goes the way of XP, I&#x27;ll go back to Linux.
pearle大约 9 年前
I think I&#x27;m finally going back to Windows 7.<p>I&#x27;d rather pay full price for a OS release than become a product.<p>Of course, another issue is that the Windows Store is completely broken on my computer and quite a few apps no longer work (including Windows Calculator, Photos, etc.).
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blahblah12大约 9 年前
Seriously, what is wrong with people? It&#x27;s SPOTLIGHT UBUNTU shows me ads too . . calm yourselves down. Ads on installers are normal, also.<p>If you didn&#x27;t want microsoft to randomly send you a sign-on wallpaper, then disable spotlight.
cmdrfred大约 9 年前
I don&#x27;t have any data to back this up but it really feels more and more like the fabled &quot;Year of Linux&quot; to me. Microsoft last it&#x27;s way when Gates left and hardware manufacturers are starting to get on board.
UK-AL大约 9 年前
Heh, I didn&#x27;t know windows had this feature. I just turned it on.
cbd1984大约 9 年前
Now, you can be the customer <i>and</i> the product!<p>Innovation: Only From Microsoft.
s_kilk大约 9 年前
Not surprised. Some of us have been predicting this for years, but we tended to get shouted down for committing the Slippery Slope fallacy.
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solnyshok大约 9 年前
I just disabled Windows Lockscreen (not to be confused with Login Screen) right after installation.
guardian5x大约 9 年前
I don&#x27;t like the direction they are going. What&#x27;s next? Sending a U2 Album on the PCs?
ramgorur大约 9 年前
I thought they started embedding full screen tomb raider ad through UEFI, my bad.
butz大约 9 年前
They should add bitcoin miner next. That way they will make even more money.
yuhong大约 9 年前
I have suggested before that MS should sell Windows to a non-profit foundation. It is probably not trivial though.
ArbitraryHobo大约 9 年前
Has Microsoft gone too far?
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ape4大约 9 年前
That&#x27;s terrible. How long until its not an option.
draw_down大约 9 年前
Wow! This is really just unbelievable to me.
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MajesticHobo大约 9 年前
Direct link to HTG guide: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.howtogeek.com&#x2F;243263&#x2F;how-to-disable-ads-on-your-windows-10-lock-screen&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.howtogeek.com&#x2F;243263&#x2F;how-to-disable-ads-on-your-w...</a>
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mariusmg大约 9 年前
What the fuck ? You choose to let Microsoft show you whatever they want on the login screen and complain their show you an ad ?<p>Seriously ? Disable the spotlight crap and be on your merry way. Or install Ubuntu and watch Amazon ads :D
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gosukiwi大约 9 年前
If only gaming on Linux would be as easy as it is on Windows...
kagia大约 9 年前
If only it were April fools...
jksmith大约 9 年前
Does ReactOS plan to copy this business model?
fiatjaf大约 9 年前
It&#x27;s funny to read all those irritating comments: &quot;oh, my OS is showing me ads&quot;, people complaining after they got a pirate OS without paying for it.
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