TE
科技回声
首页24小时热榜最新最佳问答展示工作
GitHubTwitter
首页

科技回声

基于 Next.js 构建的科技新闻平台,提供全球科技新闻和讨论内容。

GitHubTwitter

首页

首页最新最佳问答展示工作

资源链接

HackerNews API原版 HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 科技回声. 版权所有。

Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

16 点作者 dmragone大约 9 年前
I&#x27;m working on a few side projects with the intention of launching them as small businesses that will hopefully generate some cash flow. The long-term plan is to get enough of these (or as few as one doing well enough) that I can bootstrap a small operation, so that I can start my thing without having to take a serious drop in cashflow from quitting my job.<p>My concern is whether it&#x27;s safe to work on my company&#x27;s computer while at home. I work for a San Francisco start-up. Will they claim ownership over the work I&#x27;ve been doing outside of work just because it&#x27;s on their computer? It doesn&#x27;t conflict in business area in the least, but I&#x27;d rather go buy a separate computer if there&#x27;s a serious concern about claims of ownership or potential for getting sued.

16 条评论

kafkaesq大约 9 年前
Should you be concerned? Yes, absolutely.<p>Just don&#x27;t do it, period. And forget the whole idea, please.<p>Back a few decades ago, when resources were 1000x as expensive as they are now, one might have entertained the thought of using one&#x27;s work computer for personal and&#x2F;or side business projects on the sly (and a great many people did, in fact). Resources at any significant scale, or desktop setups for visualization of any kind (even just high-res images -- forget about video!) were basically unobtainable for regular people. Compilers, IDEs, documentation -- that used to all cost serious money (and shelf space).<p>But these days? Your laptop (which would blow away anything in existence 20 years ago) costs as much as a moderately expensive car repair. And hosting + computational resources are as cheap as water. Languages are so powerful that your main challenge isn&#x27;t creating stuff -- it&#x27;s creating in away that&#x27;s maintainable for your, and understandable to others.<p>So aside from the ethical aspects of mooching off one&#x27;s employer, there&#x27;s just no upside to it. In fact you might want to ask yourself why you&#x27;re even thinking of this route -- are you, internally, basically expecting to fail? Do you really think you can&#x27;t bootstrap yourself through this project, like many thousands of others like you (including many far less skilled) -- in this, the very dawn of the age of ubiquitous, nearly zero-cost computing?
评论 #11212731 未加载
burritofanatic大约 9 年前
Pied Piper faced a serious threat that nearly ruined their business which stemmed from something like this, though you can&#x27;t guarantee arbitration, and favorable treatment. Just use your own code&#x2F;open source, and your own equipment in your own time, off site.<p>I haven&#x27;t gotten an update on how their product is doing now though, but hopefully soon.
评论 #11214914 未加载
评论 #11213802 未加载
MalcolmDiggs大约 9 年前
Legal issues aside, I&#x27;d think of it this way:<p>If you walked in to work tomorrow and got fired on the spot (&quot;Give me your laptop and leave the building&quot;), would you be comfortable just handing over your machine, then turning around and walking away? If not, that&#x27;s a problem. It&#x27;s a problem for you, and a problem for your employer.<p>Best to keep things as separate as they can be.
detaro大约 9 年前
Don&#x27;t use a work computer for it, except if you have clear permission to do so in writing, from someone you are sure is able to grant you that permission. And even then only if you have to.<p>If money is an issue, grab a refurb thinkpad, or a chromebook, or something else cheap and work on that. If you even once have to talk to a lawyer for an hour to resolve the issue otherwise, that&#x27;s already the cheaper option.
jimmywanger大约 9 年前
It&#x27;s the worst of both worlds.<p>If you don&#x27;t do well and generate revenue&#x2F;attention, nothing will happen.<p>If you do do well, then they might come after you with some lawyers, and at that point you have stuff to lose and are wondering why you spent all this time and effort and didn&#x27;t spend 2k on a laptop of your own.
评论 #11212234 未加载
skibz大约 9 年前
This would depend on the terms of your employment contract (assuming there is one)<p>Is asking your employer about this directly not an option?
audleman大约 9 年前
You should be seriously concerned. I couldn&#x27;t find the article, but I remember reading a story about an IBM developer who did something as little as running a proof of concept of his side project on one of their servers. He eventually created his own company and in the end they sued him and got everything.<p>Lawyers, IP law, these are dangerous areas and you want to steer clear. In fact if you have written any code on your company computer, delete it and re-write it from scratch once you get your new laptop.
brianwawok大约 9 年前
Have you not seen what happens on Silicon Valley :)
评论 #11213392 未加载
评论 #11212305 未加载
RoyTyrell大约 9 年前
I guess you&#x27;d want to ask yourself if you can afford lawyers for a legal battle if the company wants to claim partial or total ownership of your project, and you don&#x27;t want to give it up.<p>I can&#x27;t believe someone, in this day and age and where you&#x27;re located, who wants to start up a software business doesn&#x27;t own their own computer. That&#x27;s just weird. You&#x27;re weird.<p>Seriously though, it&#x27;s very foolish to be so cheap.
stuxnet79大约 9 年前
Do you watch the new Silicon Valley TV show by Mike Judge? If not, do it now. In short, STEER CLEAR!! Or otherwise you will get your butt sued bigtime!
dudul大约 9 年前
Yes. If you use company provided resources to create Foo, Foo belongs to the company. Same if you do it during company time, or while in the office.<p>Plus, depending on your state law, they may own stuff you do on your spare time if you don&#x27;t have a document listing projects that belong to you.<p>Edit: I&#x27;m not a lawyer, rules depend on state law, you should ask one specialized in your state of residence.
nicholas73大约 9 年前
Theoretically, how would a company know if you don&#x27;t talk about your project and don&#x27;t take interviews with TechCrunch? As long as it doesn&#x27;t blow up into a household name startup, no one will ever know to look?
giltleaf大约 9 年前
Yeah I would definitely not do it. Even my nonprofit (not tech related at all) included language that says they own anything I make on a company computer.
evm9大约 9 年前
If you value your side projects and they aren&#x27;t &quot;shit no one needs &amp; terrible ideas&quot; then don&#x27;t work on a company issued machine.
ramon大约 9 年前
they can make copies of your software whenever they want, it&#x27;s their hardware. They can block specific software from running, etc.<p>Their hardware, their policies. It&#x27;s certainly not your rules.<p>Buy a Notebook!
评论 #11211950 未加载
评论 #11215592 未加载
devemeka大约 9 年前
Using company resource for side project sometimes could be violation of the company IP, giving that the company &#x2F; organization is particular about it.