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My view on the current situation of Bitcoin and the Blockchain

131 点作者 chejazi大约 9 年前

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pash大约 9 年前
Brian Armstrong, the CEO of Coinbase, wrote a blog post [0] today that gives a very different take on things. He criticized Bitcoin Core&#x27;s development team for their poor communication with the community, for their inhospitality to new contributors, and for their repeated rejection of practical and simple solutions to Bitcoin&#x27;s immediate scaling problem. He advocated adopting Bitcoin Classic&#x27;s short-term fix for full transaction blocks and wrote that it is vital in the long term to foster an environment in which multiple development teams can compete to introduce new features and improvements to the protocol.<p>There are many people in the Bitcoin ecosystem who, like Brian, feel strongly that if Bitcoin is to survive and thrive, then not only must the blocksize-limit be increased, but the exclusive power to decide the future of Bitcoin must be taken out of the hands of the Bitcoin Core team.<p>0. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@barmstrong&#x2F;what-happened-at-the-satoshi-roundtable-6c11a10d8cdf#.xw7emyjhh" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@barmstrong&#x2F;what-happened-at-the-satoshi-...</a>
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adrianmacneil大约 9 年前
I feel like that&#x27;s giving the Bitcoin Core developers a bit too much credit.<p>&gt; When asked &quot;can you scale this?&quot; They said, &quot;we&#x27;ll do the best we can.&quot; That wasn&#x27;t good enough for many, especially those who don&#x27;t understand the architecture or the nature of what is going on inside of Bitcoin.<p>The larger issue is that some of the core developers don&#x27;t want to scale Bitcoin at all. They would rather have a more decentralized, less widely used Bitcoin. There is no right answer here of course, but many companies and VCs bet their future on a widely used, less decentralized version of Bitcoin (i.e. one where it&#x27;s hard to run a Bitcoin server on a home internet connection, much like SMTP today).<p>&gt; Many people call them &quot;Bitcoin Core&quot; as if they are some sort of company you can fire or a random set of developers with skills that you can just train others to acquire.<p>They called themselves Bitcoin Core, and even went so far as to create a separate website and have started branding the reference client as Bitcoin Core.<p>&gt; It feels like while the Bitcoin Core development community is robust, the ecosystem of stakeholders and the understanding of how decisions are made and information is shared is still fragile and vulnerable.<p>The real issue is that Bitcoin has no &quot;official&quot; governance, so it&#x27;s resulting in design-by-committee and stalemate on key decisions. The project needs a BDFL, but since it has none it will fail to keep pace with innovation in the space. Unlike most internet protocols, the consensus layer prevents anyone from effectively forking the project, without creating a whole separate blockchain (unless they can convince 100% of the community to follow them).<p>Luckily, we are starting to see more innovation and competition in the blockchain space, with Ethereum being by far the most interesting newcomer IMO (and run by a competent team with a clear governance structure).
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Animats大约 9 年前
The impressive thing about Bitcoin is that it works well despite many attempts to break it. That&#x27;s so rare in computing. The basic concept was well worked out.<p>Some of the people in the financial community just want a shared ledger between the big players that doesn&#x27;t require a separate organization to run it. That&#x27;s simpler than creating a shared trusted organization, like the Depository Trust Company. Those systems are consensus ledgers where known parties each have a vote. There&#x27;s no proof of work, and it&#x27;s not a currency system. That&#x27;s unrelated to Bitcoin, but it&#x27;s taken seriously because Bitcoin hasn&#x27;t been broken.<p>The &quot;current situation of Bitcoin&quot; mostly seems to involve a dispute over block size. At the moment, some denial of service attack is creating large numbers of tiny transactions and causing a transaction backlog. Transactions which specify a higher fee get through OK, apparently.<p>The &quot;core developers&quot; think they have a voice in how Bitcoin works, but in fact, the three top mining pools in China have well over 50% of the mining power and decide what happens.<p>Too many Bitcoin exchanges are still run by crooks. Anyone knowing the whereabouts of &quot;Big Vern&quot;, Cryptsy&#x27;s CEO, should contact the Silver Law Firm, which is suing him.<p>And that&#x27;s Bitcoin today.
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woah大约 9 年前
Reading this, it seems that the author does not understand Bitcoin, blockchains, BFT consensus, or indeed computer programming. He acts as if the people working on Bitcoin are some kind of mages with arcane knowledge that nobody else has. They are simply well-versed in a very quirky distributed database.
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api大约 9 年前
&quot;They often view the people working on Bitcoin as a bunch of crazy Libertarians who came up with a cool idea but believe that a bunch of hired guns could put the same thing together given enough money.&quot;<p>This is my favorite point.<p>There&#x27;s a <i>lot</i> of people out there who think &quot;sure, yeah, hacker types can prototype creative stuff but anything they do can be done better by Serious People with Serious Degrees.&quot;<p>The history of the original PC revolution is the history of that being proven wrong. In the 70s and 80s all the Serious People with Serious Degress from the Right Schools worked for IBM, HP, and other mainframe vendors and made 2-3 times as much as the hackers who drove them into the ground with radically cheaper and eventually better products.<p>Due to its low capital costs, IT&#x2F;CS is an inherently radically meritocratic industry. Someone with no college degree can show up an expert by actually <i>delivering</i> something superior... if they can, that is, and there are enough who can that it happens fairly often.<p>If anything the pattern that I see in this industry is that the indie hackers are ahead of the curve. They&#x27;re the ones who prototype the hard stuff and solve the hard problems. The Serious People take up the rear, coming in later and building out and scaling what&#x27;s already been done. They&#x27;re the regular army, not the special forces. Serious People run the Internet now but they didn&#x27;t build it... if it had been left up to them it would be a byzantine OSI network run by telcos and we&#x27;d still be using text terminals (with limited graphics maybe) for $1&#x2F;minute.
fsiefken大约 9 年前
I read: &quot;It feels like while the Bitcoin Core development community is robust, the ecosystem of stakeholders and the understanding of how decisions are made and information is shared is still fragile and vulnerable. I fear that the communication and now emotional rift between various key groups and individuals is wide right now, but I believe it&#x27;s imperative that we try to bring the community together and focus on executing on a shared technical plan that represents our best shot at broad consensus from both a technical and a practical perspective.&quot;<p>It reads like a response on the Bitcoin situation describted in the Jan 14 Medium article by Mike Hearn on the &quot;Resolution of the Bitcoin experiment&quot;. Problems resulting in the rift between Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin XT, Bitcoin Classic and Bitcoin Unlimited. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@octskyward&#x2F;the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@octskyward&#x2F;the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin...</a><p>He seems to suggest Ethereum and Bitcoin alternatives cannot yet replace Bitcoin Core as it is robust and battle tested as he writes: &quot;If you&#x27;re serious about security and stability -- and you should be -- Bitcoin is almost the only choice with the largest bounty, and largest community, with the most practical modern experience deploying to a broad and active network in the real world.&quot;<p>But is Bitcoin the only choice and are the bitcoin stability problems outlined by Mike Hearn and others an &quot;idee fixe&quot; or just a dispute over blocksize?
mathattack大约 9 年前
Is it correct to call it a $6.5 billion bounty? Once Bitcoin is hacked, the value of all the coins go to 0, no? Who would accept them knowing they could lose them so easily.
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danbruc大约 9 年前
Bitcoin is a solution in search for a real problem that it can solve better than other solutions. That&#x27;s the situation, IMHO.
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guelo大约 9 年前
The reason I sold all my bitcoin is that the blocksize impasse started smelling like corruption to me. The interests of Chinese miners seems to have undue influence. If Bitcoin Core doesn&#x27;t have the interest of the whole community then there&#x27;s no trust. And without trust the whole scheme falls apart.
davidw大约 9 年前
As someone who is a curious outsider to the whole bitcoin thing, the more I read all the bickering, the more I think &quot;I&#x27;m going to stay away until they&#x27;ve got things figured out&quot;. After all, I&#x27;d be getting in to use the technology, rather than attempt speculate on its value.
my5thaccount大约 9 年前
It&#x27;s ironic that a currency designed to solve the problems of currencies controlled by human beings is now suffering the very same problems that caused all the fiat currencies before it to fail.<p>Human beings are the problem.
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Houshalter大约 9 年前
The other day I was alarmed to learn that bitcoin may be killing as many as one person every day.<p>That&#x27;s based on this gwern estimate of the number of deaths caused by the folding@home project: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwern.net&#x2F;Charity%20is%20not%20about%20helping" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwern.net&#x2F;Charity%20is%20not%20about%20helping</a><p>If you assume that bitcoin uses 10x more computing power than folding, and it uses most of it in China which has far worse pollution, than the estimate comes to 340 deaths per year. That&#x27;s just direct deaths, who knows how much damage is caused by indirect damage and the long term impact of those wasted resources.
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baconizer大约 9 年前
I can relate to author&#x27;s opinion on block chain VC hype, but not so sure about comparing Bitcoin to the Internet, at least yet...