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The ETF Files: How the U.S. government inadvertently launched a $3T industry

123 点作者 tinkerrr大约 9 年前

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Amorymeltzer大约 9 年前
Caught this story this morning on Bloomberg&#x27;s Odd Lots podcast[1], it&#x27;s a great story. The thread that stands out most to me (and to the hosts) is that here&#x27;s a person who looks at an 840-page government report, reads it in-depth, and creates an industry. That&#x27;s a feel-good outcome, of hard work others aren&#x27;t willing to do.<p>In a coincidence, perhaps, Planet Money&#x27;s latest episode[2] dealt with Warren Buffet&#x27;s bet on an ETF over hedge funds.<p>1: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2016-03-07&#x2F;odd-lots-how-an-obscure-government-report-launched-a-3-trillion-industry" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2016-03-07&#x2F;odd-lots-h...</a><p>2: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;sections&#x2F;money&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;04&#x2F;469247400&#x2F;episode-688-brilliant-vs-boring" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;sections&#x2F;money&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;04&#x2F;469247400&#x2F;episo...</a>
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hendzen大约 9 年前
That component-index arbitrage is what funds most OCaml development [0].<p>[0] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.janestreet.com&#x2F;what-we-do&#x2F;etfs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.janestreet.com&#x2F;what-we-do&#x2F;etfs&#x2F;</a>
minimax大约 9 年前
One big factor in the success of these ETFs is automation (aka HFT). You don&#x27;t get SPY quoted in size at a penny spread without the massive investments in research and technology on the part of the ETF market makers.
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stygiansonic大约 9 年前
Aside: The article mentions the &quot;portfolio insurance&quot; strategy and &quot;program trading&quot; as causes of the October 1987 crash. Basically, the portfolio insurance strategy was common in the 1980&#x27;s and was typically implemented through program trading.<p>Portfolio insurance basically replicates a put option against some index, typically using index futures. The idea is that if you can&#x27;t buy a put option against something, you can replicate it by creating a short position but you have adjust the size of the short position as the underlying price changes, aka a &quot;dynamic hedge&quot;. Since the delta of a put option decreases as the price of the underlying falls, you have to short more (up to a point) when the price falls. There&#x27;s nothing inherently wrong with this strategy.<p>However, if everyone (or a substantial portion of the market) is following this same strategy, it could be bad. This paper [1] reviews the commonly-point-to reasons for the October 1987 crash, and talks about program trading and the portfolio insurance strategy as potential causes, but also indicates that there were other issues at play. This other paper [2] looks at what happens when everyone, or substantially everyone, is following the same or similar strategy when it comes to portfolio management and&#x2F;or trading strategies.<p>1. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.federalreserve.gov&#x2F;pubs&#x2F;feds&#x2F;2007&#x2F;200713&#x2F;200713pap.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.federalreserve.gov&#x2F;pubs&#x2F;feds&#x2F;2007&#x2F;200713&#x2F;200713pa...</a><p>2. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.lhpedersen.com&#x2F;EveryoneRunsForExit.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.lhpedersen.com&#x2F;EveryoneRunsForExit.pdf</a>
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qaq大约 9 年前
If one likes conspiracy theories one could argue it was deliberate move to concentrate voting rights. Considering that 4 entities now control voting rights in majority of public US companies one could argue it worked.
chiph大约 9 年前
I&#x27;m still skeptical of ETFs as I see them as being a derivative product - not trading the original shares, but tickets representing them. So I see the same dangers&#x2F;risks with them as with mortgage-backed securities.<p>While I may be acting like an old fuddy-duddy, there is this:<p>&gt;Of the 1,278 securities halted for trading, 80 percent involved ETFs, according to the SEC.
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fitzwatermellow大约 9 年前
Good read! And timely as well, as it comes on the heels of the next big thing, the launch of the ETMF:<p>First ETMF by Eaton Vance Hits the Market<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasdaq.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;first-etmf-by-eaton-vance-hits-the-market-cm587566" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasdaq.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;first-etmf-by-eaton-vance-hits...</a>
thinkcontext大约 9 年前
&quot;a $3T industry&quot;<p>Not. $3T is the value of the assets held by the funds, the value of the industry is the expense fees. Its probably lower than that, if ETFs didn&#x27;t exist some portion of that $3T would instead be held in mutual funds.