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Is this c/10 spaceship known?

380 点作者 morninj大约 9 年前

11 条评论

pervycreeper大约 9 年前
This writeup (found a few pages into the thread) explains things in a little bit more detail for a newcomer. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;niginsblog.wordpress.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;07&#x2F;new-spaceship-speed-in-conways-game-of-life&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;niginsblog.wordpress.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;07&#x2F;new-spaceship-sp...</a>
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heavenlyhash大约 9 年前
That&#x27;s a beautifully concise numbering system for sharing being used there.<p>Now if only we had descriptions of chemistry that were this terse. Imagine if this kind of problem solving, collaboration, simulation, and instant verification were the norm for synthetic chem. One of the comments -- &quot;[Let&#x27;s] use gencols to rub the ship against gliders and *WSSs to see whether there is a useful collision to maybe build a puffer&quot; -- just blew me away. If this were chemistry, that commentator would have been suggesting automatic nanomachine factory discovery.<p>(InChI appears to be close. But vast amounts of data are locked up in obtuse formats are either Assigned-Names-And-Numbers style formats which are useless to indexing and similarity searches, or formats that embed non-relative coordinates in 3d space, etc, in such a way that computing a deterministic ID for sharing is practically a nonstarter.)
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ticklemyelmo大约 9 年前
Hint: Click &quot;Show in viewer&quot; in the first message. Zoom out a bit. Press play.
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nkrisc大约 9 年前
Skimming through the thread, I realized I had no idea of the type of community that exists surrounding Conway&#x27;s game. I think it&#x27;s awesome.
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jonah大约 9 年前
I just love all the lingo in little specialized communities.<p>orthogonal spaceship, glider, puffer, rake, loafer.<p>&quot;Trying to perfect a rake so it does not create Methuselah which eventually evolves into loaves, beehives and traffic lights isn&#x27;t normal. But on Conway&#x27;s Life, it is. Life. Not even once.&quot; - &#x27;muzik<p>&quot;- Use gencols to rub the ship against gliders and *WSSs to see whether there is a useful collision to maybe build a puffer.&quot; - &#x27;HartmutHolzwart<p>And the excitement exhibited over this discovery. Very cool.
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xamuel大约 9 年前
Very nice!<p>You might be interested in a simple proof I found of why c&#x2F;2 and c&#x2F;3 are speed limits for orthogonal and diagonal spaceships respectively.<p>Definition: In a gameplay of life, an &quot;infinite lifeline&quot; is a sequence of pairs (c_i,n_i) such that each c_i is alive in generation n_i and either c_(i+1)=c_i or c_(i+1) is adjacent to c_i.<p>Lemma (&quot;Two Forbidden Directions&quot;): Let x,y be any two &#x27;forbidden&#x27; directions from among N,S,E,W,NE,NW,SE,SW. In any gameplay of life that starts finite and doesn&#x27;t die out, there is an infinite lifeline that never goes in either direction x or y.<p>The lemma&#x27;s proof uses biology. Say that (c,n) is a &quot;father&quot; of (c&#x27;,n+1) if c&#x27; is the cell adjacent to c in direction x or y. Otherwise, (c,d) is a &quot;mother&quot; of (c&#x27;,n+1). By the rules of the game of life it&#x27;s easy to show every living (c,n+1) has at least one living father and at least one living mother. It follows (modulo some more details) that since the gameplay doesn&#x27;t die out, there must be an infinite lifeline where each cell is a mother of the next, i.e., an infinite lifeline that never goes direction x or y.<p>Proof of c&#x2F;2 orthogonal speed limit: If a spaceship went faster than c&#x2F;2, say, northward, by the lemma, it would have an infinite lifeline that never goes N or NE. The only way it could ever go northward would be to go NW. Every NW step would have to be balanced out by an eastward step (of which NE is forbidden) or the spaceship would drift west. So every northward step requires a non-northward step, QED.<p>Proof of c&#x2F;3 speed limit for diagonal: A diagonal spaceship faster than c&#x2F;3, say, northeastward, would have an infinite lifeline that never goes N or NE. The only way for it to go northward would be to go NW. Each NW step would need at least two eastward steps in order for the ship to go eastward, QED.
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stcredzero大约 9 年前
I&#x27;m thinking about writing a Conway&#x27;s Life MMO, where you can activate &quot;lanterns&quot; that illuminate rectangles in the grid with Conway Life squares. These lanterns are fueled with &quot;living&quot; Conway Life cells, which are harvested by the player. Sound interesting?
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iamwil大约 9 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;niginsblog.wordpress.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;07&#x2F;new-spaceship-speed-in-conways-game-of-life&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;niginsblog.wordpress.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;07&#x2F;new-spaceship-sp...</a><p>This link has an animation of the c&#x2F;10 spaceship.
stephenitis大约 9 年前
I&#x27;m confused about what I&#x27;m looking at... is this a pattern that emerges in conways game of life?
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tommoose大约 9 年前
Is it just me or does the original frame look like Serenity (Firefly)? It&#x27;s movement is backwards though.
Mauricio_大约 9 年前
amazing