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Windows Mobile 7 Series

78 点作者 glymor超过 15 年前

23 条评论

halo超过 15 年前
The UI makes both the iPhone and Android look incredibly dated. I have a few questions about discoverability and usage in practice and it looks a tad laggy in places, but on the whole it looks very nice.<p>The downsides are that it shares many of the problems with the iPhone - the lack of multitasking, no Flash, and I bet it requires iTu--the Zune Software. There's also unknowns on WM7 as a development platform, and whether it requires you to use the App St--Windows Mobile Marketplace. That said, from what has currently been shown I think the good massively outweighs the bad.<p>One feature I'm particularly happy to see is Wi-Fi Sync. I hope this gives Apple the kick up the backside they need to include it in the iPhone.
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pistoriusp超过 15 年前
Because of the side scrolling nature of the UI you've got some content on the right side that isn't relevant to what you're doing right now. (It takes away from what you're doing.)<p>The UI appears to lack any boundaries, rather relying on typography. It's interesting. I don't know how I feel about it, I'll reserve that kind of thing for the experts. It's certainly refreshing.<p>I see they've also created depth by having certain object scroll slower (or less.) Further removing the boundaries. (By boundaries I mean gradients, lines, blocks and buttons - I believe these objects give a UI a form of tactility?)<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watchv=MdDAeyy1H0A&#38;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watchv=MdDAeyy1H0A&#38;feature=player...</a>
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JunkDNA超过 15 年前
"...the first handsets are supposed to hit the market by the holidays of this year."<p>Kudos to Microsoft for realizing they need to be bold here and re-invent things. I'm encouraged by the lack of the "Start" bar. They have an incredibly brutal hill to climb if the handsets are only available at the end of the year. They should really have had a device out the door at the same time as the Palm Pre. It has taken Android a considerable amount of time to get to where it is today, and that took a no small amount of effort from Google. RIM, Google, and Apple are not going to be sitting on their hands this whole time milking their lead (well, RIM might ;)). Assuming the time frame holds true (a <i>big</i> assumption), by the time any appreciable number of users have these devices in their hands (early 2011), Apple alone will have released a major new OS update as well as hardware update, and be halfway to the next one. I expect Google will be similarly aggressive.
evlapix超过 15 年前
With regards to the interface I have to vouch for Windows.. I have a Zune HD. I love it. The UI is anything but limiting and amazingly intuitive.<p>My girlfriend would ask "How do I do XXX" and before I could remember how I would accomplish the objective, she had explored her way to the solution.<p>Obviously a phone will have more strenuous requirements, but the interface I'm using on the Zune seems like it may be the exact outlandish interface that changes the way we think about buttons, and menus for interactive portable devices.
topbanana超过 15 年前
About time too. As .Net developer, I've been frustrated watching the Windows Mobile car crash develop in slow motion. Let's hope they get the ecosystem right too
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forgotAgain超过 15 年前
1) There is no phone yet. This was just a very superficial first look behind the curtain. Right now it looks like a modified Zune.<p>2) Delivery of devices by the end of the year seems a very tight schedule. That gives them basically 8 months to get to RTM. They haven't announced developer tools yet. I would expect a very basic 1.0 release this year if they make it at all.<p>3) It would be good if they succeeded. It's to no one's benefit to replace one 800 lb gorilla (Microsoft) with another (Apple). A counterweight is needed and Google Buzz has caused me to do a complete re-eval of that firm's worthiness.
pavs超过 15 年前
I hope I am not one of the few who didn't like the interface. It looked too much like "flash interface" you see on some websites. Not a big fan of sideways sliding.<p>I applaud having more choices in interface, but I am more interested in better choices as opposed to having just another choice. Hard to draw any solid conclusion just by watching that video, but not very impressed so far. IMO YMMV
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mercurio超过 15 年前
<i>[Microsoft is] dictating rigid specs for 7 Series devices (a specific CPU and speed, screen aspect ratio and resolution, memory, and even button configuration), and doing away with carrier or partner UI customizations such as Sense or TouchWiz. That's right -- there will be a single Windows Phone identity regardless of carrier or device brand.</i><p>So all Windows phones will look the same and work the same. I'm skeptical that hardware manufacturers will be enthusiastic about Microsoft turning their products into commodities again. Unlike the situation with PCs, this time they have a viable alternative in Android.
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jsz0超过 15 年前
I'm no fan of Microsoft in general but it looks like they made some good choices here. It's refreshing to see a GUI that's not just an iPhone clone or yet another awkward facelift on a dated product. I think it will be successful. SmartPhones don't have the same level of legacy baggage that prevent users from jumping to another platform easily so I don't think Microsoft is out of the game at all. It'll be interesting to see where their market share comes from. I'm thinking RIM &#38; Nokia more than Apple &#38; Android.
mdasen超过 15 年前
What I would have really liked to see in the video was any new capabilities of Mobile Internet Explorer. Is it going to have the capabilities that we're used to from the iPhone, webOS, and Android? The web browser is probably the most important part of these phones since almost everything has a web interface. The XBOX Live and Facebook apps look nice, but there's no guarantee that Windows Phone 7 Series will take off and get lots of developers on board. However, a good web browser means that I can still get what a lot of what I want without apps.
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akshat超过 15 年前
The phone does not seem simple. My mom was able to figure the iphone out. I doubt about this one.
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dannyr超过 15 年前
I love my Android but I have to say I'm impressed with Windows 7.<p>I have a Zune and I dig the UI a lot. Adding XBox Live games is definitely a big plus. The games give it a big advantage over Android.<p>Apps will again be key and this is where Microsoft strengths lie. Microsoft has the best developer tools on the market and they have legions of engineers on the .Net platform.<p>My only worry is that it may be a year or two late for Microsoft. I don't really want to count them out because of what they did with the XBox versus the Playstation.<p>However, the phone is a tougher market. It would be harder to convince people to switch phones. Phones are much more personal than gaming consoles.
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glymor超过 15 年前
Steve Balmer from the press conference:<p><i>"...the innovation of developers is important. We build a new foundation with a rich set of development tools which we'll discuss at MIX next month. [...] we want to take a very big step forward on [development tools]."</i><p>I wonder if this is just WPF/Sliverlight.<p>This seems a lot like the Palm WebOS announcement; similar reboot/new platform and breaking of backwards compatibility (unconfirmed).
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liquidben超过 15 年前
It will be very interesting to see what XNA support is like on the final model. There's a strong community of developers accessing these tools for free, which would allow Microsoft to roll out a full and lively app store quickly. I would be highly optimistic about Microsoft's ability to run an app store service, based on experiences with Xbox Live, Xbox Indie Games, and Rock Band Network. Since they're building from scratch, they could analyze and avoid legacy issues present in Apple's iTunes App Store ecology.<p>Converse to their potential strengths at running an app store, Microsoft has a difficult decision posed by marketing. There are a lot of people out there addicted to Xbox Live Achievement points. If MS allows you to earn achievement points via games on it's new mobile phone, it will get a <i>tremendous</i> boost in market share.<p>The risk present here is that the achievement points system requires additional overhead and review by MS, in order to prevent system breaking games. There's no feasible way for them to populate their app store with indies <i>and</i> approve achievement points for all of them.<p>In order to have their cake and eat it to, MS needs to be able to differentiate achievement point games from indie games, but without turning indie games into an unshopped ghetto (see Xbox Indie Games). My best resolution would be to offer a small differentiation to icons on the store, specifically take those icons for games with points and apply a smaller logo to the corner, much like on a shortcut icon. Perhaps make it a little gold medal with a green ribbon falling in an X shape ;)
jsz0超过 15 年前
Wondering how it effects the SmartPhone industry...<p>RIM/Nokia: Should be worried. They're jockeying over last place in the SmartPhone modernity contest these days. Hasn't hurt them much yet but it's hard to see how that lasts forever. Nokia is probably in better shape than RIM here.<p>Palm: Good try. Consider Open Source and/or licensing before it's too late.<p>Apple: Probably not much to worry about for now but they shouldn't get complacent with the iPhone platform. My biggest question here is how big of a distraction the iPad was for Apple internally. Do we have a major iPhone revision and a strong software update in the works or another minor hardware bump with a merely evolutionary OS update? If they stay off Verizon for another year (at least) it could really start to hurt iPhone sales. The iPhone is no longer so far ahead of the pack that you'd suffer with bad coverage to use it.<p>Android: Not much for Google to worry about but I think a lot of third party handset makers will put some resources back into Windows Mobile devices. Even more so with the existence of the N1.
Groxx超过 15 年前
I must say, that's surprisingly clean and not in-your-face. A nice change for Microsoft. I've seen <i>very</i> similar styles of interfaces (concepts) for a few years, but they're certainly the first big-player to back it with a product. We can hope it won't be that slow-scrolling (largely seen in other videos). People get annoyed with shiny things that slow them down.<p>One thing that's bugged me about the touch line of iProducts is the amount of wasted space around the icons (though I understand the reasoning behind it, and it would encourage an entire icon remake if changed).
gxs超过 15 年前
I'm curious to see how it handles emails and .doc and .ppt files.<p>Whether we like it or not, a lot of day to day business activities happen through word, outlook, and now, powerpoint. If windows mobile displays those files types cleanly, I assure you it will be a success. Blackberrys let you open those filetypes but I think they handle it pretty clumsily.<p>For me it would be a huge plus if I could go through a deck or read a long word document without having to always be at my desk.
rbanffy超过 15 年前
Funny how it looks like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPDT21oEhW0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPDT21oEhW0</a>
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aresant超过 15 年前
Refreshing user interface yes.<p>But did we forget all the lessons of the "readwriteweb facebook login debacle" of last week?<p>This UI seems substantially less user friendly than iPhone or Android for your average end user.<p>Who is now, incidentally, trained on the "iphone clone" UI if they've had a smartphone in this generation.
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stcredzero超过 15 年前
Seems like M$ has re-prioritized. Backwards compatibility is no longer sacred. Now it's alright to forge ahead and tack-on backwards compatibility afterwards. (I'm also thinking of Vista and Windows 7 here.)
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ThomPete超过 15 年前
Hmm not sure what to make of this.<p>The interface looks very limiting.<p>For instance where do I overview my apps?
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stuntmouse超过 15 年前
A couple of things I noticed that haven't been mentioned here: Wi-Fi syncing will be great, the animated XBox Live icon is a little annoying.
stuntmouse超过 15 年前
Microsoft got the memo.