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Dead Kennedys guitarist goes after the modern music industry

66 点作者 rottyguy大约 9 年前

9 条评论

ilamont大约 9 年前
When the HN headline mentioned &quot;DK frontman&quot; and &quot;goes after the modern music industry&quot; I was kind of incredulous because the original singer Jello Biafra had a reputation of taking advantage of his fellow bandmates through the Alternative Tentacles record label he controlled (which released all of the DK records). I admired Biafra&#x27;s caustic lyrics which nailed so many things that are wrong with our government and society (then and now) but it seemed a bit hypocritical for him to take the moral high ground on the ills of the music industry.<p>Turns out &quot;frontman&quot; in the article is now guitarist East Bay Ray working with a pretty much reformed band. No mention of Jello or the other 70s&#x2F;80s members, but you can get an idea of the convoluted history here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dead_Kennedys" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dead_Kennedys</a>
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BEEdwards大约 9 年前
For a long time punk rock industry vet his arguments sure sound a lot like my dad&#x27;s.<p>&quot;Modern music is garbage and you kids today don&#x27;t know anything.&quot;<p>I don&#x27;t know where this guy is, but I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a controversial statement to say that more music is being made now by more diverse groups of people with better technology than at any other time in history.<p>I&#x27;m not saying garbage isn&#x27;t being made and bought, but to ignore the actual musical revolution going on at the same time is just damned shortsighted.<p>And ironically for an aging punk rocker the exact same thing people said about his music when he was still young.
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brandonmenc大约 9 年前
&gt; increasingly difficult, if not impossible, for independent bands to exist at all, he said<p>Uh, no.<p>These old-timers still think a healthy &quot;independent&quot; music scene is one where an infinitesimally small number of garage bands get lucky and land distribution deals with indie labels, and maybe make a couple bucks.<p>What we have now is real music independence - being able to DIY record your band and instantly distribute the sound to the entire planet, for free. You can also DIY record and distribute professional music videos, communicate with your fans in real-time, and take payments from anyone in the world.<p>What a time to be making (and listening to) music!<p>The only people complaining about this are the guys who ran small labels in the 80s and 90s - they&#x27;re just bitter that they&#x27;re no longer needed, and that major labels still exist.
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rorykoehler大约 9 年前
More people that don&#x27;t understand that the music industry business model has changed. Not only this but the competitive environment in which the industry operates has also changed (ie music is not as valuable in the eyes of the average listener due to things like video games taking that attention space).<p>Plenty of great music is coming out at the moment, from exactly the type of indie labels they lament not existing anymore. It&#x27;s just the successful contemporary indie labels have appropriate business models to deal with the current environment. The days of making millions selling plastic boxes are over. Time to move on.
circuit_breaker大约 9 年前
Needs more Jello
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8ig8大约 9 年前
Some argue that the Sex Pistols were a _boy band_ orchestrated by Malcolm McLaren...<p>&gt; Reliably or not, Mr. McLaren explained his strategy for packaging and selling the band in the 1980 film “The Great Rock ’n’ Roll Swindle.”<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;04&#x2F;09&#x2F;arts&#x2F;music&#x2F;09mclaren.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;04&#x2F;09&#x2F;arts&#x2F;music&#x2F;09mclaren.html?...</a>
rdiddly大约 9 年前
If he&#x27;s gonna compare &quot;now&quot; with &quot;back then,&quot; and the artists he picks from &quot;now&quot; are Bieber &amp; Kardashian - two of the most vapid and heavily promoted mainstream household names, available by glancing at the nearest tabloid headline - then he needs to pick similarly vapid, heavily promoted, mainstream household names from back then. And there were plenty. Doesn&#x27;t he remember?
timrpeterson大约 9 年前
People in the 1950-60s said The Beatles and Bob Dylan were trash. It&#x27;s called change, get used to it.<p>Pretty confident Kim Kardashian will be considered an icon some day in the same sense as Marilyn Monroe, Madonna or whoever else was considered crap during their peak by the old guard. Heck, Donald Trump shows she might even be President if she wants to.
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peterashford大约 9 年前
Having grown up in the 80&#x27;s I think the article is BS. The net has allowed a thousand flowers to bloom. The recording industry isn&#x27;t gone but you can do an end run around it these days. When I was a kid you got the crap pop du-jour and that was all. These days you have zillions of avenues to new music.