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Google Fined by French Privacy Regulator

57 点作者 pavornyoh大约 9 年前

8 条评论

Someone1234大约 9 年前
Why do American commenters become so defensive whenever an American company operating abroad is subject to local laws? Foreign countries aren&#x27;t subject to the first amendment of the US constitution, and a lot of other countries both through law and through social norms don&#x27;t consider freedom of speech absolute.<p>This law doesn&#x27;t allow individuals to remove any information they find distasteful, it allows individuals to apply to remove information about THEM. And there is already built in a &quot;public interest&quot; defence, meaning if there is a public interest to the link then the link stays.<p>Ultimately this isn&#x27;t black and white, and there are some interesting use cases of this Right to be forgotten (e.g. revenge porn), I&#x27;d suggest people read the Wikipedia article top to bottom, it is quite fascinating: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Right_to_be_forgotten" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Right_to_be_forgotten</a><p>But I&#x27;ll say this, whatever opinion you come away with, you cannot criticise France for not holding up to the US&#x27;s ideals. If Google doesn&#x27;t want to operate under the EU&#x27;s privacy standards then Google can leave.<p>I also find it slightly ironic that Americans on one hand whine endlessly about other countries violating perceived rights while on the other operating the world&#x27;s largest surveillance dragnet, and Americans routinely say (paraphrasing) &quot;it is unacceptable to monitor Americans, but fine to spy on foreigners!&quot; So if you&#x27;re going to start arguing that the US&#x27;s 1st amendment should apply in France then I&#x27;m going to argue that the US&#x27;s 4th amendment should too!
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disgusted405大约 9 年前
The Times should really stop referring to the &quot;right to be forgotten&quot; madness as a privacy restriction as it only touches on public info, it&#x27;s a <i>censorship</i> law.<p>They are being fined and ordered to censor public record items globally, say what you will about China but even they don&#x27;t do that.
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gorbachev大约 9 年前
The logical conclusion of following orders like this is for China to demand every trace of Tiananmen Square to disappear from all of the Internet.<p>This is madness.
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wildmusings大约 9 年前
If France is able to pull this off, and Google doesn&#x27;t just decide to close all of its French offices, someone will start an uncensored search engine based exclusively in the US, subject only to American jurisdiction. Anyone trying to dig up dirt, like a prospective employer, will search on that instead. You might say, France will then block that search engine. Okay, so people will use one of the hundreds of web proxies that can be easily found by searching &quot;web proxy&quot; on Google, or Tor. And yes, people <i>will</i> go through this trouble, especially in a place where it&#x27;s almost impossible to fire someone, like France.<p>Sounds like a stupid sword to fall on.
ejk314大约 9 年前
I think there must be a fundamental difference in the way Americans view privacy vs how Europeans view privacy.<p>To me, &#x27;privacy&#x27; means that my actions performed at home (or in other places where I can reasonably assume to be alone or in private company) should not be under the scrutiny of others.<p>I should have the right to act how I want in public as well, so long as my actions do not affect other people. But I don&#x27;t see how I could reasonably expect to have privacy in that case.<p>Do Europeans have a different view?
disaster01大约 9 年前
Ah les Francais. Show le Google our force. 100.000 EUR fine. Regardless of whether the decision is right or wrong, the real question is: will it work. Will they make Google and other companies submit with such methods?
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ocdtrekkie大约 9 年前
This is such a pittance. $112,000? That&#x27;s like a parking ticket.
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aub3bhat大约 9 年前
I guess its now Très chic to hate Google. Maybe they should revive <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Quaero" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Quaero</a>
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