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Apple at 40: The forgotten founder who gave it all away

199 点作者 grahamel大约 9 年前

18 条评论

Stratoscope大约 9 年前
There are so many things that might have happened but for one key decision. You can&#x27;t spend the rest of your life wondering &quot;what if?&quot;<p>But it can be tempting!<p>In my case, I had the opportunity to be the first programmer at Apple. I told the story on Reddit a few years ago:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;IAmA&#x2F;comments&#x2F;h4n5w&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;IAmA&#x2F;comments&#x2F;h4n5w&#x2F;</a><p>As you can imagine, I have wondered &quot;what if?&quot; more than a few times. :-)<p>But &quot;what if?&quot; can work both ways. I could have become a billionaire and one of the most famous people in Silicon Valley. Or Steve could have driven me from the mild depression I&#x27;d occasionally experienced into full-blown mental illness, as happened with one of Apple&#x27;s earliest employees. You just don&#x27;t know which way it could have turned out.<p>The other story on the front page today about Regis McKenna reminds me of one of the more remarkable coincidences I&#x27;ve encountered.<p>As I told in the Reddit story, when I walked out of Apple&#x27;s answering service in 1976 I thought to myself, &quot;Those guys are flakes! They&#x27;re never going to make it.&quot;<p>It was one of those things that sticks in your mind. I remember vividly to this day exactly where I was walking and the exact words that were in my head.<p>A couple of years ago I was reading Michael Moritz&#x27;s <i>Return to the Little Kingdom</i> and ran across this:<p><i>At first there was great uncertainty at the Regis McKenna Agency about Apple&#x27;s prospects. The account executive, Frank Burge, explained, &quot;People who knew Markkula and Apple wondered whether they would make it. We kept saying &#x27;These guys are flakes. They’re never going to make it.&#x27;&quot;</i><p>Other than &quot;these&quot; vs. &quot;those&quot;, it&#x27;s the <i>exact same words</i> I was thinking.<p>It was definitely a strange feeling to run across that quote!
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personlurking大约 9 年前
I always wonder how true that last statement is - to the tune of &quot;Find something you love so much that if you do it you&#x27;ll never work a day in your life.&quot;<p>I&#x27;ve enjoyed things that, when they became an obligation, I stopped enjoying. Though I think it says more about myself than the actual veracity of the quote.
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CapitalistCartr大约 9 年前
This is an excellent example of why startups are dominated by the young, single, affluent. They have nearly nothing to lose. The rest of us do.<p>&quot;If the company goes poof, we are individually liable for the debts,&quot; Wayne explained. &quot;Jobs and Wozniak didn&#x27;t have two nickels to rub together. I had a house, and a bank account, and a car… I was reachable!&quot;
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mooreds大约 9 年前
Don&#x27;t forget that it is silly to equate 10% of the company at founding with $60 billion today.<p>He would definitely be rich, but there would have been a fair bit of dilution.
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gnicholas大约 9 年前
&gt; &quot;If the company goes poof, we are individually liable for the debts,&quot; Wayne explained.<p>Definitely not true, since Apple was a corporation. Creditors can only &quot;pierce the corporate veil&quot; (and tap shareholder assets) where a corporation is a sham, which Apple certainly wasn&#x27;t. I hope he had other reasons for walking away, since this one doesn&#x27;t make any sense!
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SonicSoul大约 9 年前
this is incredible. According to the article he backed out of the shares because of possible liability of the deal went south, but that doesn&#x27;t make sense. If they incorporated his personal assets would not be up for grabs if the company couldn&#x27;t pay it&#x27;s debt. Also the fact that he did this means that he does care about financial stability and this seemed like a bad investment. In either case, it&#x27;s impossible to predict these things so statistically he probably made the right move, but what bad luck!! Im surprised Steve didn&#x27;t get him back into apple once they were well off, or maybe there is more to this story.
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rottyguy大约 9 年前
Assuming he hung in, would he have sold out when Jobs got fired back in the 90&#x27;s? We always try and maximize the winnings for a good story but miss the critical thinking along the way. Risk=Reward (or massive failure). Just sounds like Mr. Wayne was not big into risk.. Very understandable.
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snowwrestler大约 9 年前
We&#x27;ve all given stuff away by making decisions in our lives. We make what we think is the best choice, and then we live with the consequences. Regret doesn&#x27;t change tomorrow.<p>That said, were I in Woz or Job&#x27;s shoes, I would have given this guy a big check at some point, as a thank you. Actually maybe Woz did--neither he nor Wayne seem like folks who would talk about such a thing if had happened. Not likely from Jobs though.
oniMaker大约 9 年前
As mentioned in this thread, the temptation to ask &quot;what if?&quot; is huge, and we all have built-in cognitive strategies for dealing with it. If this ability didn&#x27;t exist, coping with non-fatal mistakes could easily overwhelm us and paradoxically become fatal!<p>Imagine waking up every day knowing that you could have been a billionaire but for a single foolish decision, and having no way to get around that thought. You&#x27;d have a very poor quality of life indeed, even if you were perfectly materially comfortable. The fact that he cannot keep an Apple product hints at this; being confronted with a constant reminder would be too painful.<p>It&#x27;s a subtle and useful lie to think of yourself or pretty much anyone else as being non-materialistic or enlightened enough as to cheerfully give up billions of dollars in wealth. No doubt if this person was given a second chance with foreknowledge, he would take the deal.<p>It&#x27;s only afterward that we cry &quot;sour grapes&quot; in order to reduce our mental struggles to a manageable level.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Cognitive_dissonance#.22The_Fox_and_the_Grapes.22" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Cognitive_dissonance#.22The_Fo...</a>
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girkyturkey大约 9 年前
With my luck, this would have been a story from my life! But as I always say, there are no &quot;should have&#x27;s&quot; in life; there are &quot;did do&quot; and &quot;didn&#x27;t do&quot;. Life is too unpredictable to think &quot;what if&quot;. It reminds me of the Matrix when Neo is in the Oracles kitchen and Neo knocks the vase over after the Oracle told him &quot;Don&#x27;t worry about the vase.&quot; Neo obviously confused says &quot;How did you know I would break it?&quot; and she finishes with &quot;What really is going to bake your noodle is would you have still broken it had I not said anything?&quot; No point in wasting energy on things that never happened.
japhyr大约 9 年前
&quot;I said: &#x27;Steve, whatever it is that you want to do, you can do it a lot more easily with money in your pocket. Go ahead and make the money, and do whatever you want to do. Just don&#x27;t forget what you wanted the money for&#x27;.<p>This was my takeaway. I have a very clear sense of how much is enough in my life. When I get there I&#x27;m going to quit my job, and be completely free to just take on work I care to do. I already enjoy the work I do, but I&#x27;d love to be fully in control of my own schedule.
yuhong大约 9 年前
I wonder what would happen if Gil Amelio stayed as CEO of Apple after the NeXT acquisition. The beige G3 did sell well and helped Apple return to profitablity: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;1998&#x2F;01&#x2F;15&#x2F;business&#x2F;company-reports-sales-of-g3-computer-lift-apple-back-to-profitability.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;1998&#x2F;01&#x2F;15&#x2F;business&#x2F;company-reports-s...</a>
nxzero大约 9 年前
It&#x27;s hard to tell if he&#x27;s not materialistic - though he seems happy with the choices he made and in the end, happiness is a choice.
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kmfrk大约 9 年前
Is he really forgotten at this point? I&#x27;ve been told about the founding of Apple more often than I have the gospel.<p>Well, the <i>other</i> gospel anyway.
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Fr0styMatt88大约 9 年前
Wow.... something jumped right out at me in that article.<p>The photo of Woz &amp; Jobs holding the circuit board. Woz looks like he&#x27;s jumping for joy, loving every minute of it.<p>Jobs looks like a grump who couldn&#x27;t care less and would rather be anywhere else but there. He looks so incredibly unhappy.
randomgyatwork大约 9 年前
Seems like this guy has had bad luck in his decisions to sell apply stuff.
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ttflee大约 9 年前
Is there any term in agreements like that an entrepreneur who chose to quit prematurely shall transfer his&#x2F;her share at the price of 1 dollar in 1970s?
1457389大约 9 年前
So am I the only one here who knows what Pahrump is (in)famous for?
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