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The truth comes out: Microsoft needs Linux

63 点作者 argorain大约 9 年前

13 条评论

ctvo大约 9 年前
There is a large group of people on the internet who never let the Microsoft of the 90s go.<p>How does every single one of their business decisions get linked to some nefarious goal? The author doesn&#x27;t even know what it could be, BUT DON&#x27;T FORGET! This company tried to patent everything decades ago! Don&#x27;t forget they&#x27;re not bringing bash to Windows out of the goodness in their hearts!
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mikegerwitz大约 9 年前
The author quoted Shuttleworth:<p>&gt; The native availability of a full Ubuntu environment on Windows, without virtualization or emulation, is a milestone that defies convention and a gateway to fascinatingly unfamiliar territory.<p>&quot;Ubuntu environment&quot; is the key there. Microsoft doesn&#x27;t need &quot;Linux&quot; unless they&#x27;re planning on replacing their own kernel with it. Microsoft here is depending on the software running atop of the kernel: in this case, the GNU operating system---which is more than just a set of GNU programs[0]---which brings all of this software together.<p>Granted, all the talk has been primarily about GNU Bash and other GNU software.[1]<p>Yes, they&#x27;re running software compiled for the kernel Linux by providing translating system calls; they could also do that for any other kernel that hackers want to compile their software for, should it become immensely popular. But the rest of the Unix stuff is separate.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gnu.org&#x2F;gnu&#x2F;gnu.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gnu.org&#x2F;gnu&#x2F;gnu.html</a><p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnu.org&#x2F;software&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnu.org&#x2F;software&#x2F;</a>
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theboywho大约 9 年前
GNU is like Leonardo DiCaprio few years ago; never getting the Oscar. Microsoft did not bring Linux to Windows, it brought GNU. Linux is a kernel and there is not even a single bit of it in what microsoft brought to windows. It&#x27;s technically GNU&#x2F;Windows.
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zymhan大约 9 年前
Did the author post this having entirely ignored all of the news and discussion about this last week?<p>This just seems like a seriously tardy &quot;me-too&quot; piece.
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CyanLite2大约 9 年前
Ubuntu on Windows does more to destroy OS X. It&#x27;s about developers choosing Macbooks over Surface Tablets and traditional laptops with a Win10 license.<p>If you&#x27;re an enterprise running SQL Server now on Windows. You&#x27;re not going to ditch your cluster to have it re-installed on Linux just to save a couple dollars on an OS license. But if you&#x27;re a newbie developer fresh out of college and been doing development in a Unix-style environment (because they bought a Macbook instead of a Win8 laptop four years ago), you&#x27;ve probably never been exposed to a Microsoft development environment. These efforts are to capture the next generation of developers who haven&#x27;t ever touched a Windows desktop and feel comfortable with writing Python on Linux and using MySQL or Oracle. Want proof? Quick, name one unicorn startup who has a Microsoft technology stack. Heck, just name anybody that&#x27;s using a Microsoft development stack in Silicon Valley...<p>Now those developers can be targeted with .NET, SQL Server, and Ubuntu on Windows. Now instead of buying the same version of that Macbook, those folks can go buy a Surface Tablet clone with the pen and touch screen (and a Windows 10 license!), and still do all of their development on a Unix-style environment. Better yet some will transition to C#, and some will even take advantage of the free-license-for-Oracle-users to switch to SQL Server.
sickbeard大约 9 年前
How is it the truth if the author specifically mentions that he his speculating?
ausjke大约 9 年前
To me Microsoft has been evil long enough, instead of welcoming they &quot;join&quot; open source world, I&#x27;m 1000x more concerned they become a tumour and hurt the booming open source at large. Just leave OSS alone Microsoft!
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devereaux大约 9 年前
Yes, it does. Not so much on servers or desktops, but on phones. The mobile ecosystem is in danger of becoming a iOS&#x2F;Android duopoly (or already is, depending on which X you want in 9X% to say it is)<p>I love Windows Phones. No so many apps, which is good as I don&#x27;t have that much time to tweak stuff. Sensitive defaults like a black theme (!!!), a click to enable reading aloud SMS (!!), crazy battery features.<p>They are liquidating the current WP8 line, so it&#x27;s like $30 if you want to get a Lumia 640 LTE to play with for a weekend (and free unlock code if you want to keep it but don&#x27;t want AT&amp;T). It&#x27;s just sad to see something that had so many good things for it go the way of the Dodo.
Roboprog大约 9 年前
I don&#x27;t think MS is &quot;embracing open source&quot; (or even necessarily rejecting it), so much as they are acknowledging that Linux servers are here to stay for a while, and simply grabbing a piece of the pie instead of ignoring it. Much like Oracle having its own Linux distro.<p>Perhaps enough shareholders complained about a market segment simply being given to OSX (development environment for work intended for a POSIX server) that they simply had to act. No more, no less. Not benevolent or malevolent, just picking up some loose cash :-)
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raarts大约 9 年前
A possible reason for bringing MSSQL to Linux that was not mentioned in TFA at all: customers requesting it.
chris_wot大约 9 年前
I wonder what Ballmer thinks, after all he was the one who called Linux a &quot;cancer&quot;.
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ybrah大约 9 年前
Click bait title and speculation
meapix大约 9 年前
in other words, just installing cygwin.