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Ask HN: If one works over 40hrs/week, can they claim more years of experience?

8 点作者 bobisme大约 9 年前
If someone were regularly overworked, averaging say 60 hours per week, would it be reasonable to claim 1.5x &quot;years of experience&quot; with a given technology during that period?<p>Say if someone often worked 70-90 hours per week and worked on holidays and didn&#x27;t take vacation for 5 years. How could somehow reflect that experience on a résumé? Would it be fair to at least claim 7 years experience for that time?<p>Thanks

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dalke大约 9 年前
No.<p>Work isn&#x27;t linear. Overwork often leads to less productive work, so working (say) 100 hour weeks for a year might be less of a learning experience than working 40 hours weeks for two years.<p>Part of experience is in knowing how things evolve. Best practices change. If you only have 2 years of clock time experience but claim 4 years of &quot;real&quot; experience due to working 80 hour weeks, then that doesn&#x27;t mean you know to handle the changes from 3 years ago when Framework 2.4 became Framework 3.0.<p>You also don&#x27;t have a baseline. A lot of people regularly overwork.<p>Finally, if someone asks &quot;when did your first use Framework&quot; and you reply 2013 but your resume says you have 4 years of experience, then you will likely be called out for the discrepancy.
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mtmail大约 9 年前
Are you saying you drove your car really 3 years instead of 5 because you haven&#x27;t used it every day? Or your marriage is 25 years instead of 20 because it was so intense? Will working three part time jobs triple the number of years?<p>The years of experience are actual years, no subtractions, no adding. It&#x27;s just a guidance and says nothing about actual technology experience.<p>A person who claims to work 70-90h per week without vacation for 5 years might attract some companies. Others will say the person has no private life and might burn out soon. Those extra hours work short-term, but long-term they aren&#x27;t a batch of honor.
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saluki大约 9 年前
I would be honest with your history . . . I&#x27;ve been developing with X since Y. If you start to inflate things you&#x27;re going to fall down a slippery slope where you&#x27;re not even sure how long you&#x27;ve been doing things and interviews&#x2F;conversations could get confusing&#x2F;make you look bad.<p>Most companies just care that you know your stuff enough to be production so 3-5 years of experience is plenty saying 7 years isn&#x27;t going to improve your level&#x2F;pay&#x2F;experience.<p>Keep things honest, I wouldn&#x27;t advertise that you avg. 60 hours per week worked on holidays etc. You&#x27;ll be better off getting away from that in your next job.<p>I&#x27;ve done that before and seen people do that for years and when things go bad they are still shown the door like everyone else. So don&#x27;t be that person. Work reasonable hours for reasonable pay.
kdamken大约 9 年前
While you&#x27;re technically correct (the best kind of correct!) in that a year of experience assumes a 40 hour work week, I don&#x27;t think anyone would let you add extra years. A year of experience just means you did that job for a year.<p>I&#x27;d recommend against doing that for a resume - you&#x27;ll be seen as a liar.
theGREENsuit大约 9 年前
No. By working extra hours you may gain more expertise but you certainly do not gain time. You can&#x27;t make time, you can only spend it. How would you reflect working 70-90 hrs&#x2F;week without holidays? By having senior level expertise, a list of accomplishments and being burnt out :)
partisan大约 9 年前
No and does it really matter? I find that interviewers are open to seeing candidates who don&#x27;t have experience exactly in the range they are looking for as long as you can impress them with your knowledge. The ones who do are the places you probably shouldn&#x27;t work anyway.
jbchoo大约 9 年前
Ppl in Singapore work minimally 44 hrs&#x2F;week. And generally ppl work way more than that minimum req. If the claim system you asked would be implemented as world standard, I think most singapore residents would be over the moon, rushing to update their resume now.
uptownfunk大约 9 年前
I know for places like top-tier consulting firms (e.g. MBB) people regularly say that 1 yr of work translates to about 2 yrs of typical 40hr&#x2F;week type of work. I think the highly right skewed distribution of tenure contributes to that.
kohanz大约 9 年前
<i>&gt; would it be reasonable to claim 1.5x &quot;years of experience&quot; with a given technology during that period</i><p>As a general aside, every time I see a resume with something along the lines of: &quot;Java (2.5 years), C++ (5 years)&quot;, I cringe a little. Please don&#x27;t do this. There is something about denoting the exact amount of time you have spent with a specific technology (which we can generally deduce from your work experience anyway) that, at least to me, broadcasts a lack of confidence in your own skills.
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MalcolmDiggs大约 9 年前
Hahahaha, classic.<p>Oh wait, you&#x27;re serious?
dotcoma大约 9 年前
no (imho).