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What Would Happen If We Just Gave People Money?

33 点作者 bkurtz13大约 9 年前

7 条评论

bko大约 9 年前
I was thinking about this issue when I attended a meet up for independent game developers. I was shocked at the number of people I had met that just develop games full time. I met an entire team of 4 people that have been working full time over the last year designing and developing a mobile game. They have a playable prototype and it&#x27;s fairly entertaining but nothing ground-breaking in my opinion. Running the numbers in my head, I thought that this game would have to clear over a million dollars for it to even be considered a break-even for 4 well educated, hard working young people working over a year on the venture. I didn&#x27;t know their personal financial situations, but I couldn&#x27;t help but be both envious and terrified.<p>I met another person who worked on indie game development for two years and now works for a company designs games for others for money up front. He told me he hadn&#x27;t made any money in the years working for himself.<p>It&#x27;s incredible how many young people devote their time to passion projects with the very limited social safety net of the US. Surely a basic income will increase the allure. The question is, does the world need more indie mobile game developers?
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jmh42大约 9 年前
I&#x27;ve spent some time thinking about basic income. At times arguing for it, other times arguing against it.<p>Unfortunately we cannot resolve the scarcity problem, particularly when it comes to real estate, i.e. the location one chooses to reside. There is a simple physical constraint: only one thing can occupy a specific space at a time. Cities in general are popular places to live because of their proximity to &quot;things&quot;, the Arts and that interesting stuff happens where more people can collaborate in the real world. (Consider the demand to be close to your child&#x27;s school or near a dog park.)<p>Given this (assumption if you will), let&#x27;s consider a few rounds of economic cause&#x2F;effect. Round 1: if everyone were given a basic income, many more people will be able to afford to live in a city. Round 2: not all people, but some, will seek housing (rent or buy) in this city. Round 3: owners will need to choose between [1] renting&#x2F;selling at current price for which there is suddenly higher demand or [2] increasing their price until there is less demand. Round 4: most owners choose option [2] and excess income begins to be sucked up by higher and higher prices.<p>The issue is basic income increases the demand (perhaps good for today&#x27;s global economic ailments) while supply of goods&#x2F;housing will take time to adjust. Of course, given the opportunity to sell apartments in a city at higher margins will cause developers to build new supply, but this takes years.<p>One way to deal with the supply&#x2F;demand issue is having a basic income that starts low ($100 a month?) and increases to a basic living wage over the course of 5 years. This way, investments can be planned ahead of time so supply increases with demand.
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jakeogh大约 9 年前
I bet China does it first. The opportunity to control the population by putting everyone on the take is very attractive to power structures.<p>Also it furthers the long-term social engineering regarding &quot;if the gov does it (theft in this case) then it&#x27;s OK&quot;.
flashman大约 9 年前
I&#x27;m less worried about the economic aspects (western countries can afford this) than the social ones, namely the new forms of resentment this will encourage when taxpayers see all the things &#x27;their&#x27; money is buying people.
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boznz大约 9 年前
A great idea, however I doubt in practice it would work as well as everyone thinks.<p>What may work for a school leaver may not work for a guy with a family of 6&#x2F;debts&#x2F;drug or alcohol problems&#x2F;medical needs&#x2F;etc. that person may be much better off with housing benefits&#x2F;family benefits&#x2F;medicare etc than an equal slice of the pie.<p>Anyway I dont know but I am in favour of doing the experiment and hope it works, but I seriously doubt it will be as cut and dried as people think.
exacube大约 9 年前
How do the economics of providing Basic Income work?<p>I guess you would have increase taxes or provide lesser services? e.g., expect that basic income will cover some parts of the medical costs and provide a lesser health care for the average person. I&#x27;m guessing an implementation will be somewhere in between.<p>Money has gotta come from somewhere.
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glasz大约 9 年前
it would loosen the chains of capitalism for the 90% who haven&#x27;t, aren&#x27;t and won&#x27;t get lucky. that&#x27;s even most of us around here.<p>&quot;we&quot; can afford it. wall street is creating money every second. with a proper tax structure there&#x27;ll be no problem. but that&#x27;s politics-land and shit will happen until sheep are casting apt votes.<p>long story short: things will stay the way they are.