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The Great Zero Challenge

28 点作者 tubby超过 17 年前
I've heard for many years that in order to securely erase old hard drives that one must use a tool that makes multiple overwrites using random data. However, I've never seen data recovered from a hard drive that had been overwritten once with only zeros (no random data and only on pass). I've also seen heated debates in online forums over this topic. I really wish someone would take this challenge and put an end to this debate once and for all.

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gojomo超过 17 年前
The theory is that special expensive equipment could possibly do such a recovery -- so the 3-day time limit, and measly $40 prize, isn't really responsive to the question.<p>Further, if you were an agency with the budget and equipment to do this, would you want the world to know?<p>They aren't testing what they're trying to test, and even a 100x reward and 10-year time limit wouldn't prove the negative, "that recovering data from a zeroed hard drive is impossible".<p>A seminal paper on the possibility -- but not the reality -- of such specialized recovery is Peter Gutmann's 1996 "Secure Deletion of Data from Magnetic and Solid-State Memory" [ <a href="http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/%7Epgut001/pubs/secure_del.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/%7Epgut001/pubs/secure_del.html</a> ].<p>Guttman notes in an undated epilogue, however, that advances in data density and recording techniques since 1996 make any recovery from modern devices "unlikely". Still, the "Great Zero Challenge" provides very little in the form of real evidence about these questions.
Tichy超过 17 年前
The well-repected German magazine c't did the test a couple of years ago. They contacted three data recovery firms, and none could recover a drive that had been dd-ed with zeros once.<p>I wonder how to erase Flash-Drives, though.
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pmjordan超过 17 年前
Interesting. I've read the whole spiel about data being recoverable after being overwriteen many times and from many sources. I've always wondered whether it was true. I mean, I know about hysteresis loops, but given the size of the storage cells on a hard disk these days, it seemed really unlikely that they're not fully magnetised. If data recovery companies aren't going to even try, then I guess that pretty much confirms it's a myth.<p>I'd be intrigued whether it's possible to recover data on hard disks from 10, 15 years ago which have been treated this way. Back then, the magnetic cells were much, much bigger. What about floppies? I'm guessing the myth must have originated <i>somewhere</i> - although ignorance is a reasonable possibility I suppose.
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pius超过 17 年前
The terms are utter bullshit.<p><i>You may not write any data to the drive or disassemble it . . . .</i><p>The Gutmann paper referenced elsewhere in the thread concludes that overwriting the drive (something like 34 times IIRC) with zeroes is important because a dedicated analyst can measure the residual magnetism of each sector of the drive to infer the most recent "long term" binary values. Not allowing the drive to be opened makes this type of analysis kind of difficult.
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rw超过 17 年前
No one is allowed to disassemble the drive! Because of that, this drive won't ever get professional-level treatment from a data recovery firm.
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patrocles超过 17 年前
Rename it the Zero-Clue Challenge.<p>They haven't learned a single thing from the recent uptick in challenge interest (RC4/5, DARPA, Netflix, etc.)....
imsteve超过 17 年前
&#62; You may not write any data to the drive or disassemble the drive.<p>What the heck?
daniel-cussen超过 17 年前
Very cool.