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Jolla C, a new Sailfish OS phone from Jolla

145 点作者 anttiviljami将近 9 年前

20 条评论

sametmax将近 9 年前
I was using a dumb phone and a change of life made me need a smartphone. A friend of mine encouraged me to get a Jolla.<p>I liked the idea, Open Source, you can code your app in Python, compatible with Android apps, etc.<p>At the begining, I was very tolerant with the quirks of the phone, being a FOSS believer and all.<p>But after months and months of use, I&#x27;m getting more and more frustrated with it:<p><pre><code> - it&#x27;s slow. - apps randomly crashes or don&#x27;t start at all. - Android support is limited. - network is unreliable. - the performances don&#x27;t allow any decent Web surf experience, and I already hate the Web on mobile so it makes things irritating for me. - it requires a lot of fiddling to adapt it to your needs. It can be good if you need customization, but some basic stuff (such as emoji) are not included by default. Some might consider that a feature, but when a girl text me a smiley when I flirt with her, I want to know what face it has because it kinda condition my next answer. - some bugs are incredibly annoying. The worst being the poor handling of group text messages which lead to very confusing conversations. A smartphone that can&#x27;t text, really? - ergonomy is lacking at best. While I think there are some neat ideas, the hidden menu for simple tasks, the absence of resize in some picture mode and the presence of it in others and plenty other subtle details make it cumbersome to use even for basic stuff. The color scheme and overall design is not a good fit on the long run. </code></pre> I do like having a real GNU system and a terminal to play with it on my phone, but let&#x27;s face it, I use the Web&#x2F;GPS&#x2F;Text more than the terminal, and they are not decent for a 2016 experience.<p>It&#x27;s where smarphones were 5 years ago, but with bugs.<p>I don&#x27;t regret I bought it, it was a nice experience, but now I&#x27;m going for something that will just work.
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bruce_one将近 9 年前
Very surprised, I hadn&#x27;t anticipated this happening.<p>(Irrationally excited too.)<p>I&#x27;d assumed that after the tablet fiasco that Jolla wouldn&#x27;t be doing any hardware for a long time. (I&#x27;m not personally grumpy in any way, but I think fiasco is the most accurate word :-s )<p>I&#x27;d been holding out hope for an official Fairphone 2 deal (or even the Puzzlephone), but this is awesome :-)
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simondelacourt将近 9 年前
I really do not anymore understand Jolla. I have bought a Jolla Phone in the past followed by backing the tablet. The phone started slowly to annoy me more and more, mainly because of the subpar processor and the lack of memory (I had to keep killing apps to keep my browser handy). Android support is okay but notifications get delayed from time to time (for hours)...<p>Jolla said to focus more on the software, and now they come up with this?!<p>I really don&#x27;t get this. The specs are subpar, the unique selling points (no bloatware, premium jolla support) are no different than before, and it is all made even weirder to get the product via this first come first serve idea with only a 1000 phones.<p>Jolla has been criticized that they are crappy at opening up and telling the real deal. They really are. In the months following the tablet debacle the updates were just crappy. It was until the rebate email (with a link to get fill in your details) that I discovered that I would actually get a tablet. Somehow it was too complicate to tell the first 1000 backers per email that they would get a tablet.<p>Jolla, get your communication act together. If you want to get people to believe in you explain your motives, explain your ideas of how the future would be. Skip the marketing bullshit, your target audience is not that much interested in hollow PR words. Be sincere, open and direct. Understand that people might be disappointed and explain the relevance of the Jolla C. But don&#x27;t just act like nothing happened.
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catwell将近 9 年前
Signed up. I had backed the tablet but since it failed I never had an opportunity to try Jolla for real, this will be it.<p>I really think we need an alternative to the Android &#x2F; iOS duopoly and I hope this is it.
mullsork将近 9 年前
Any Jolla&#x2F;Sailfish users out there that could shed some light on their impressions so far? I&#x27;m reluctant to switch to Android or iOS but I will need to switch out my phone real soon.
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luxpir将近 9 年前
I miss my semi-bricked n900. I know one of us always chimes in, but still, it&#x27;s true. It was a very functional phone. I need to solder a USB cable onto the data-pads under the battery to retrieve some data and possibly restore it, but it served very well for 5 years.<p>The Ubuntu phone is a tolerable placeholder. A Jolla seems like it would be just tolerable also (as per sametmax&#x27;s comments) but I&#x27;ll have to keep waiting for something decent <i>and</i> open.<p>Also still holding out for convergence... Give it another 5 years probably!
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Shugyousha将近 9 年前
I would love to have a Sailfish OS phone but if they are not Open Sourcing their UI libraries I can&#x27;t convince myself to buy it.<p>It&#x27;s a real shame because all I want is a fast, simple OpenSource phone OS (that is as responsive as iOS). AOSP is okay but it does not feel as snappy as when I tried iOS for which I blame Dalvik. There are not a lot of contenders, only Tizen, Ubuntu Phone and plasma mobile. I hope one of them will be installable on the Fairphone 2 in the near future...
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ZenoArrow将近 9 年前
The phone looks like a decent all-rounder, but I&#x27;d say they&#x27;ve missed out on one potential killer app.<p>I&#x27;d say the one feature that is game changing for both Jolla and Ubuntu Phone is being able to run it as a desktop device as well as a phone. If the hardware supported USB Type C, there&#x27;d be no question that this would be my next phone, even if the desktop functionality wasn&#x27;t supported at launch it would be a clear statement of intention.
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hypercluster将近 9 年前
I&#x27;d like for Jolla or Ubuntu to succeed with their phones but I just don&#x27;t see it. I fiddled around with an Ubuntu phone for a while but stopped using it eventually. The basic funtionalities are just not as good or as stable as they should be. That would be step one. But then, especially with phones, there&#x27;s a lot of innovation and those kind of phones just can&#x27;t keep up.
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andridk将近 9 年前
I have a Jolla phone, and used it exclusively until it met with the sidewalk and cracked the screen.<p>The OS is a breeze to use, even if you&#x27;re using Android apps.<p>However after the whole Jolla Tablet fiasco, I am reluctant to buy more from the company.
shmerl将近 9 年前
4G&#x2F;LTE: 1&#x2F;3&#x2F;7&#x2F;20<p>Does it mean it&#x27;s incompatible with T-Mobile in US? That&#x27;s just annoying. Aren&#x27;t Qualcomm already making universal modems by now?
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Tharkun将近 9 年前
I&#x27;ve given up on Jolla. Their OS got worse with every release. Their hardware was very sloppy (three dead batteries in a year time, design flaw which required me to keep a piece of paper under the battery to keep it in place). Their support was god awful. The only way to get my device fixed was to mail it to Finland and spend over a month without a replacement.<p>The idea was great. They tried to keep the Maemo spirit alive. But they failed.
t0mk将近 9 年前
I am too surprised they did a new phone after the tablet fiasco. I wonder how it differs from the Intex phone they showed on MWC 2016 in February.<p>I really wonder if they think about the product name in terms of people who try to look it up. &quot;jolla&quot; in Finnish also means &quot;on which&quot; (in addition to &quot;dinghy&quot; or some little boat), which makes it really difficult to look up on finnish websites.
carc1n0gen将近 9 年前
Is there a specific reason that both Jolla phones and Ubuntu phones are not available in Canada, or North America for that matter?
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paride5745将近 9 年前
A friend of mine is still waiting for the Tablet or a refund. Honestly, I do not trust them enough to give them my money.
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deanclatworthy将近 9 年前
I worked on the Jolla launch website over three years ago. What ever happened to &quot;The other half&quot; - their big idea?
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jnmandal将近 9 年前
Real bummer that it&#x27;s only for EU, Finnish and Swiss users right now.
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hathym将近 9 年前
evrything was good until Qualcomm 212 !
tychuz将近 9 年前
Well, it&#x27;s even less popular than Windows Phone - that&#x27;s quite an achievement!
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ensiferum将近 9 年前
wow limited edition.... All the 5 people in the world interested in this must now be worried if they can get one...