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The real responsive design challenge is RSS

221 点作者 begriffs将近 9 年前

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toyg将近 9 年前
Hey, a post about RSS content quirks! It makes me feel young again!<p>On a more serious note - RSS is the Great Web Leveller. It spites your fancy CSS hacks, it&#x27;s disgusted by your insane javascript, and it will piss all over your &quot;mobile-optimized&quot; crap. No semantic markup == no party; because markup is for robots, and RSS parsers are very stubborn robots that can see through web-hipster bullshit like Superman through walls.<p>The only real sin of RSS (beyond the holy wars and format bikeshedding and committee madness and and and...) is that it&#x27;s too honest a format. It&#x27;s a format for stuff that matters, for content that deserves to be read; it&#x27;s too pure to survive in a world of content silos, stalking analytics and inaccessible material-designs. Its innocence doomed it in a very poetic way.
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dave2000将近 9 年前
RSS is odd. Unloved by many, killed by Google, but there&#x27;s still no better way of getting notified that a rarely (or perhaps not so rarely if you have endless time to read &quot;internet stuff&quot;) updated site has something new to read. So I have an Android app which checks once per day and if there&#x27;s anything new that day (I can go days or weeks without an update) I then pass it on to my Pocket account. Sometimes it goes another step further and I send it on to my Kindle.<p>Perhaps there&#x27;s a better way of handling this. I can&#x27;t read it directly on my Kindle because the browser there - optimistically described &quot;experimental&quot; - is shocking. Pocket is great because it does a good job of producing a page which consists of just the typing without the usual horrific web fluff (although sometimes it gets it wrong and the graphics go missing).<p>It seems a shame that, when most of what I&#x27;m interested in started life as someone else essentially entering text into a document, there&#x27;s no way of obtaining it in that form but instead it has to be manipulated into something sensible. I don&#x27;t want an &quot;experience&quot;; I just want to read what you&#x27;ve typed.<p>Would it help if I gave you my email address?
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Animats将近 9 年前
For the last three days, we&#x27;ve had a Teletype Model 14 tape printer following the Reuters RSS feed [1] at a steampunk convention in San Jose, printing hundreds of feet of 8mm paper tape. Trying to condense RSS down to all-upper-case Baudot tape printing is harsh. All markup is deleted. All links are deleted. Most characters outside letters and numbers become &quot;?&quot;.<p>For the Reuters feeds, this works out fine. The content is text, not markup. There are few or no HTML tags. The Reuters feeds are headlines and a sentence or two. The Associated Press also has RSS feeds, and it&#x27;s very similar. The Voice of America&#x27;s feeds are much wordier; they often have the whole article.<p>Space News has an RSS feed.[2] The Senate Democrats have an RSS feed covering what&#x27;s happening on the Senate floor.[3] (The GOP discontinued their feed.[4]) The House Energy and Commerce Committee has a feed with markup in embedded JSON.[5] Not sure what&#x27;s going on there. Even The Hollywood Reporter has an RSS feed.[6]<p>So for real news, RSS is in good shape. RSS seems to be doing fine for sources that have something important to say.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;feeds.reuters.com&#x2F;reuters&#x2F;topNews" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;feeds.reuters.com&#x2F;reuters&#x2F;topNews</a> [2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;spacenews.com&#x2F;feed&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;spacenews.com&#x2F;feed&#x2F;</a> [3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;democrats.senate.gov&#x2F;feed&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;democrats.senate.gov&#x2F;feed&#x2F;</a> [4] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gop.gov&#x2F;static&#x2F;index.php" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gop.gov&#x2F;static&#x2F;index.php</a> [5] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;energycommerce.house.gov&#x2F;rss.xml?GroupTypeID=1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;energycommerce.house.gov&#x2F;rss.xml?GroupTypeID=1</a> [6] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;feeds.feedburner.com&#x2F;thr&#x2F;news" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;feeds.feedburner.com&#x2F;thr&#x2F;news</a>
amatriain将近 9 年前
I develop and maintain an open source RSS reader. In my experience it&#x27;s not so bad. I strip CSS and javascript from feeds, and most of them are displayed fine anyway. I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve ever found a feed that needed javascript to load content, it seems even SPAs include plain entry content in their feeds, thankfully. I&#x27;ve never found a feed that became unreadable after stripping styling either.<p>I agree it&#x27;s interesting to look at your content when loaded in an RSS reader. IMHO most feeds are actually more readable when loaded in a clean uncluttered RSS reader than in the original webpage. If the content is good, the reading experience should not be harmed by focusing just on its text and images and removing extra styling.<p>Shameless plug: the RSS reader I maintain is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.feedbunch.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.feedbunch.com</a> , comments are welcome.
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colinthompson将近 9 年前
When Google Reader was in its heyday, I remember thinking the futuristic promise of the web from the early 90s had finally arrived. I so miss it. So much effort is put into unique &quot;platforms&quot; nowadays — I get why Reader (and by extension RSS) can&#x27;t survive in such an environment where exclusive attention of our eyeballs is monetized — but I do sometimes wish I would wake up to an announcement that RSS is a priority for big companies once again. One can dream.
mmahemoff将近 9 年前
As the developer of an RSS parser, I spend a lot of time hitting View Source, surprisingly often on pages that appear empty in Chrome.<p>In a more general sense than RSS, I also have to install extensions to format JSON. Considering how much browsers are targeting developers these days, might they consider rendering JSON, XML, etc in some standard way that is useful to developers (as an option at least). I am talking about syntax highlighting as well as some basic interactive features like expanding&#x2F;collapsing.
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ruricolist将近 9 年前
I think the nastiest thing to parse in RSS feeds these days is code highlighting. To a surprising degree, people who should know better use blogging software that chops up code into tables, divs, and spans, and styles them with CSS that is not included in the feed. You either have to either reconstruct the underlying plain-text code as best you can, or try to recognize and support a zoo of different highlighting libraries.
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spdustin将近 9 年前
Yahoo! Weather&#x27;s RSS feed has some handy additional data. Useful if you only have a US postal code. Includes things like lat&#x2F;long coords, separate elements with weather forecasts ad current conditions, sunrise&#x2F;sunset times... Pretty handy bits of data just for requesting an RSS feed.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.yahoo.com&#x2F;weather&#x2F;archive.html#response" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.yahoo.com&#x2F;weather&#x2F;archive.html#response</a><p>Bonus: the @code attribute can be substituted into the URL for an image, and visually identify the weather condition referred to by the code:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;s.yimg.com&#x2F;zz&#x2F;combo?a&#x2F;i&#x2F;us&#x2F;we&#x2F;52&#x2F;26.gif" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;s.yimg.com&#x2F;zz&#x2F;combo?a&#x2F;i&#x2F;us&#x2F;we&#x2F;52&#x2F;26.gif</a><p>Just replace &quot;26&quot; part of &quot;26.gif&quot; with another value.
exolymph将近 9 年前
It depends on who your audience is, right? If most of the people who read your site come from social media on their phones instead of reading via RSS, optimizing for RSS readability is an activity with rapidly diminishing returns.
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michaelmior将近 9 年前
I&#x27;m not sure what this has to do with responsive design, but this is a cool list of some things to be aware of :)
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