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A linguistics tool to help you simplify your writing

86 点作者 kamran20将近 9 年前

12 条评论

kerkeslager将近 9 年前
In theory this is a great idea, but not a single implementation I&#x27;ve seen fits my needs.<p>I&#x27;m not going to use a writing tool that requires me to change my entire workflow. This (and every other tool I&#x27;ve seen that does something similar[1]) requires me to use their editor. If I want to do something like edit a comment on HN, it requires copy&#x2F;paste to do that.<p>More crippling than that, these editors don&#x27;t support anything besides the writing simplification features. HTML breaks it, markdown breaks it, and it can&#x27;t do WYSIWYG (Hemingway does this last, but not well).<p>I don&#x27;t mean to criticize the tools too harshly: linguistic processing of any kind is hard and they do a good job at that. I can certainly see how this would be useful for someone who writes more seriously than I do and can take the time to write first and mark up or format in a different editor later. And the effort to make it something I would use is large. I would probably want a browser plugin that watched my text areas and handled markdown, and a vim plugin. :)<p>But for me, not having integration with my workflow makes it too complicated to use and the value it provides isn&#x27;t large enough for me to change my workflow.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hemingwayapp.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hemingwayapp.com&#x2F;</a>
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Anthony-G将近 9 年前
I’m an admirer of the writing of George Orwell so I thought it would be fitting to paste the first two paragraphs of his 1946 essay, “Politics and the English Language”.<p>It suggested removing a number of <i>modifier phrases</i>. These phrases were not redundant and removing them would result in loss of important detail, information and&#x2F;or emphasis. In some cases removing those words would result in nonsensical or syntactically incorrect sentences. Further experimentation showed that it complained about “mostly” and “many” as modifiers but not “some”.<p>It highlighted a number of <i>long noun phrases</i> but none of these could be suitably shortened, and Orwell’s uses of the passive voice were mostly appropriate; re-phrasing these to be in the active voice would result in awkward prose. Its <i>left branching sentences</i> were not rambling at all.<p>On the plus side, I thought its highlighting of <i>long sentences</i> worked well but not all long sentences are difficult to parse and a succession of multiple short sentences can have an unnatural rhythm. It also failed to take into account that colons and semi-colons can be used to separate main clauses.<p>I wouldn’t use it myself, but I can see how it could be a useful tool for considering how a sentence can be rephrased and encouraging awareness of the issues it highlights.
conistonwater将近 9 年前
This reminds me of the &quot;Hemingway&quot; app that failed Hemingway: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu&#x2F;nll&#x2F;?p=10416" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu&#x2F;nll&#x2F;?p=10416</a><p>Can I also just point out that &quot;I was exhausted.&quot; is not passive voice! And &quot;Our work here is done.&quot; also shouldn&#x27;t be highlighted, it&#x27;s absolutely fine. What the hell? With these kinds of false positives, this seems like it would do more harm than good.
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jccc将近 9 年前
&quot;Four score and seven years ago...&quot;<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;K0Mhkse.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;K0Mhkse.png</a><p>[I&#x27;m not snarking, by the way. Just playing with it. It&#x27;s perfectly okay to have a tool optimized for, say, business correspondence.]
multinglets将近 9 年前
I feel like every 4 or 5 years, everyone gets together and celebrates terse writing like it&#x27;s some new insight.
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transpy将近 9 年前
I say it is interesting. It&#x27;s from the same guys from &#x27;Watch a machine-learning system parse the grammatical structure of sentences&#x27;. AFAIK, here they are implementing automatic summarization, aided presumably by the accuracy of their parser. I signed up and I look forward to trying it.
bearcobra将近 9 年前
The variable pricing is pretty interesting. In one session I got $1, $3 and $5, while another gave $5, $12, and $20. $5 felt like a good deal considering what I pay annually for Grammarly. I&#x27;d be curious what their average is.
titzer将近 9 年前
Most writing needs pruning. Not mine. Thanks. :P
jwally将近 9 年前
Reminds me of this: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hemingwayapp.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hemingwayapp.com&#x2F;</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8074243" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8074243</a>
Zolomon将近 9 年前
Is there no beauty in painting vivid pictures through colourful expression?<p>Sure, being terse makes consumption faster and easier, but don&#x27;t you trade<p>that for the tool of directing the reader&#x27;s imagination?<p>I guess the skill is in being terse yet still descriptive?
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huac将近 9 年前
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;draftin.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;draftin.com</a> has something like this as well
kolapuriya将近 9 年前
Testing this by using it to write a blog post. So far so good. It&#x27;s pretty nifty for &quot;pruning&quot; dense writing.