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Microsoft uses malware tactics to foist Windows 10 on more PCs

82 点作者 avckp将近 9 年前

14 条评论

pygy_将近 9 年前
My in-law&#x27;s laptop &quot;upgraded to Win 10 all by itself&quot; last week (that&#x27;s how they described it), and I can only suppose that one of them closed the nagging pop up, unknowingly triggering the update.<p>After rebooting, neither the keyboard nor the trackpad would work. I had a spare USB keyboard (no mouse), and I managed to delete the faulty drivers, which were replaced on reboot by valid ones (the bad drivers were reported as &#x27;up to date&#x27;, so updating wouldn&#x27;t do it).<p>Disabling all the spyware features with only a keyboard during the post-install setup wasn&#x27;t fun. Thankfully, the device manager is still his old Win95 self, and I could easily navigate through it even though I haven&#x27;t owned a Windows machine since XP.<p>I learned after the fact that refusing the User Agreement would revert to the previous version of the OS. I wish I had known that before finalizing the impromptu upgrade.
ensiferum将近 9 年前
I&#x27;m just waiting for the day when Microsoft moves on to subscription based service. Basically I&#x27;m assuming that they want their win10 user base high enough and then one day they say &quot;we changed our licensing policy to subscription based&quot; and then everyone has no choice but to pay $20 or whatever every month or be locked out from their machines. There&#x27;s probably some small print in the win10 EULA that conveniently allows them to move onto this model under the ruse of &quot;rolling releases&quot;
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Yetanfou将近 9 年前
I just restored one of my neighbour&#x27;s computers to life after it &#x27;suddenly stopped working, it only shows a black screen with a mouse pointer&#x27;. The last thing the thing - which runs Windows 7 - had done was try to install KB3035583, the &#x27;get Windows 10 now or die trying&#x27; version. It died.<p>After restoring Windows&#x27; messed-up intestines the machine booted up again. I&#x27;d removed all traces of KB3035583 in the hope that this neighbour - a farmer&#x27;s wife in her 60s - would not be bothered again, nor tricked into &#x27;upgrading&#x27;. Being the wise person I am I decided to keep the machine in quarantine for another day, just to make sure Microsoft would not come up with yet another way to foist this miscarriage of an operating system onto hapless users&#x27; machines. And, lo and behold, the next day I was greeted by yet another &#x27;update&#x27;, also summarily hidden and scrubbed, but still... I do these people a favour in helping them with technical stuff, but I don&#x27;t want to become a full-time guardian. If this keeps up I&#x27;ll just put some form of Linux on the thing and be done with it, all she uses it for is some light web browsing and mail-related stuff anyway.<p>To paraphrase a well-known quote, the harder Microsoft pushes, the more users will slip through their fingers and move to better pasture. That they don&#x27;t realise this is something of a mystery to me.
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mikestew将近 9 年前
I&#x27;m seeing this story in several places, so I&#x27;m going to go with the smoke==fire assessment, but can anyone confirm? I hate to pull the [citation needed] card, but this sounds beneath even the Microsoft of the 90s. And if it&#x27;s true? OMG, today&#x27;s &quot;open source, and Linux, and ponies!&quot; Microsoft is demonstrating worse behavior than the &quot;convicted abusive monopolist&quot; Microsoft, IMO.
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spriggan3将近 9 年前
The guys at MSFT just don&#x27;t give a fuck... I wonder what are their plans with W10 and the next versions. It seems it is mandatory for them that everybody moves to W10, the question is why ? what is MSFT strategy for the next 5&#x2F;10 years when it comes to Windows ? A closed system like the Xbox ?
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thedudemabry将近 9 年前
I thought I was the only one! My gaming PC hooked up to our living room TV has nagged about the upgrade for months, and I dutifully closed the popup window each time I saw it. About two weeks ago, I turned on the TV to find a new login screen and noticed that my remote keyboard and mouse daemon had stopped. All in all, Win10 has been just fine, but I had no idea how it managed to install itself without my direct approval.
ksk将近 9 年前
Can anything damage large companies&#x27; reputation irreversibly these days? Whether is Microsoft forcing &quot;upgrades&quot; on PCs or Apple forcing iOS updates with their constant popups (which BTW you can avoid by using a proxy file) or their planned OSX obsolescence. And Google being a web company is free to muck up the UI, tie unrelated products together or discontinue services without any recourse since they&#x27;re not client applications. Most large software companies&#x27; practices seem abusive to me. &quot;We take security seriously&quot; - after they&#x27;ve just been hacked or &quot;We take privacy very seriously&quot; - after they&#x27;ve just handed over user data for some ad cash, etc.
avckp将近 9 年前
The side effects: &quot;I live in the Central African bush. We pay for slow satellite internet (per MB d&#x2F;l). Just ONE of our computers has secretly d&#x2F;l&#x27;ed 6GB for Windows 10. We track &amp; coordinate anti-poaching rangers in the field with these PC&#x27;s + GPS. F* You Microsoft!&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;technology&#x2F;comments&#x2F;4mcdon&#x2F;i_live_in_the_central_african_bush_we_pay_for&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;technology&#x2F;comments&#x2F;4mcdon&#x2F;i_live_i...</a>
8rian将近 9 年前
Left to their own devices, people would never upgrade. This is a security risk for MS. (Win 8 support ends January 2018). Chrome was championed for auto updating, and now all browsers do the same. Web apps can auto update whenever they want. Mobile apps auto update. Why shouldn&#x27;t operating systems?
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benbenolson将近 9 年前
Use Linux. Problem solved.<p>Of course, if you have special needs (games, proprietary Windows-only software, etc.), you might have to run Windows. My advice would be to simply use an Enterprise version of Windows 7, which doesn&#x27;t &quot;upgrade&quot; you automatically, and work on moving away from any Microsoft platforms as quickly as possible.
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rhizome将近 9 年前
This is essentially an entire feature of the updater. Imagine the meetings and project management involved.
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zxcvcxz将近 9 年前
Windows 10 slows down my whole PC and won&#x27;t let me downgrade. I was forced to move to Linux or deal with constant lag from all forms of input.<p>Can&#x27;t believe I wasted my time putting up with the lag to fix my wifi so I could install updates.
rfurlan将近 9 年前
A simple guide for life: (1) Gather information (e.g. read the screen) (2) Think about it (3) Act accordingly
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serge2k将近 9 年前
For probably the first time I understand why forum&#x2F;reddit mods turn to those &quot;megathreads&quot;<p>Do we need a new story about this every day. ugh.
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