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To the DAO and the Ethereum community: Fuck you

90 点作者 randomname2将近 9 年前

15 条评论

SkyMarshal将近 9 年前
Amusingly, Gun Sirer and others anticipated this just yesterday:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackingdistributed.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;06&#x2F;17&#x2F;thoughts-on-the-dao-hack&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackingdistributed.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;06&#x2F;17&#x2F;thoughts-on-the-dao...</a><p><i>&quot;What&#x27;s a Hack When You Don&#x27;t Have a Spec?<p>First of all, I&#x27;m not even sure that this qualifies as a hack. To label something as a hack or a bug or unwanted behavior, we need to have a specification of the wanted behavior.<p>We had no such specification for The DAO. There is no independent specification for what The DAO is supposed to implement. Heck, there are hardly any comments in The DAO code that document what the developers may have been thinking at the time they wrote the code.<p>The &quot;code was its own documentation,&quot; as people say. It was its own fine print. The hacker read the fine print better than most, better than the developers themselves.<p>Had the attacker lost money by mistake, I am sure the devs would have had no difficulty appropriating his funds and saying &quot;this is what happens in the brave new world of programmatic money flows.&quot; When he instead emptied out coins from The DAO, the only consistent response is to call it a job well done.</i>&quot;
runn1ng将近 9 年前
Note that this is just a repost, by Mirca Popescu - <i>very</i> controversial bitcoiner.<p>He famously wrote &quot;The woman&#x27;s job is to find a great man (not good, by the way), suck his cock, wash his socks and write his eulogy.&quot; and other articles, glorifying rape and tying it back to Bitcoin.<p>edit: oh here it is<p>&gt; The available stategies open before you are quite the same as the raped woman has historically encountered : either learn to love your rapist and make him an excellent wife - or else die, beaten black and blue.<p>&gt; You are the raped woman. Get used to it, because this Bitcock ain&#x27;t gonna suck itself.<p>What a lovely libertarian<p>edit2: but he finances OpenBSD. So he can&#x27;t be <i>all</i> bad.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.co.uk&#x2F;2014&#x2F;01&#x2F;20&#x2F;openbsd_bailed_out&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.co.uk&#x2F;2014&#x2F;01&#x2F;20&#x2F;openbsd_bailed_out&#x2F;</a>
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tdaltonc将近 9 年前
Smarter people then I have said that this message is not validly signed:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ethereum&#x2F;comments&#x2F;4oo1io&#x2F;an_open_letter_from_the_hacker&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ethereum&#x2F;comments&#x2F;4oo1io&#x2F;an_open_le...</a><p>Though the view it expresses (but not the legal gibberish) is still though provoking.
mrkgnao将近 9 年前
As unlikely as it may be (I believe real lawyers will quickly come along and tell us <i>how</i> unlikely), we may actually be seeing $ATTACKER legally assert his claim to the money, and the whole thing &quot;come through&quot;, so to speak.<p>Edit: The author seems like a very, very disturbing individual. Does anyone on HN have a bit of a back story on this person?
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crazypyro将近 9 年前
What happens when a judge interprets the spirit of the T&amp;C and not the letter? Is that something that a judge has the right to do?<p>I understand that this would most likely kill &quot;smart contracts&quot; (since they can just be overridden by existing legal systems...), but wouldn&#x27;t it be a possible path to reclaiming the assets?
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gus_massa将近 9 年前
Previous discussion (other URL) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11927891" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11927891</a> (227 points, 6 hours ago, 96 comments)<p>I&#x27;ll copy a comment by verroq <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11928645" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11928645</a> (but there are a few similar comments there)<p>&gt; <i>This letter is fake. Signatures do not match. Flag and move on.</i><p>&gt; <i>. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ethereum&#x2F;comments&#x2F;4oo1io&#x2F;an_open_letter_from_the_hacker&#x2F;d4e7efq" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;ethereum&#x2F;comments&#x2F;4oo1io&#x2F;an_open_le...</a> .</i>
nisa将近 9 年前
I feel like I&#x27;m on the only one that is out of the loop on this DAO hack:<p>Could someone provide some context? Who is the author? Is he the attacker? What does the Keccack hash prove? Does Ethereum even use Keccak? Or is this just some troll posting?
jraines将近 9 年前
I don&#x27;t understand the gnashing of teeth around solving this with a soft fork then hard fork. Is that not just as built into the overall system as any flaw is built into a smart contract?<p>The code decides. But the community decides on the code.<p>Imagine a hypothetical anonymous coin that completely won over the narcotics trade. It achieved all its goals such that no government could trace it or freeze assets. But one day a supplier accrued a huge mass of coins by selling rat poison. Why shouldn&#x27;t even fervent believers in the system ignore protests of &quot;tyranny! the Fed!&quot; if the overall narcocoin community forked his coins to worthlessness?
vessenes将近 9 年前
This is not an argument that will win in court, the actions are not equitable. And, it is probably still criminal even if you win your civil suit. It&#x27;s all just posturing in my opinion, someone made their money shorting ether and is just messing around right now.
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frankfrazetta将近 9 年前
Not again .. Y combinator was super helpful when I got goxxed and now it&#x27;s back to the same epic fail thread. Let&#x27;s see what happens after brexit election.
powera将近 9 年前
IANAL but I expect that anyone admitting to this will find themselves in jail very quickly, at least in the US. The legal system isn&#x27;t fond of $50 million cons based on one paragraph of legalese.
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frankfrazetta将近 9 年前
Nothing to see here people - move along .. Leave crypto because your only interested in the price.
Artlav将近 9 年前
The real question now is, for most folk - sell the ether, buy more ether while it&#x27;s cheap, or do nothing?
lumberjack将近 9 年前
To me it sounds like the attacker just hates the idea of ethereum for some reason.
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edoceo将近 9 年前
If the writer is confident in their legal team why do they remain unnamed?