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EU Referendum Rules Triggering a 2nd EU Referendum

25 点作者 ptr将近 9 年前

10 条评论

i_don_t_know将近 9 年前
Sorry, but you cannot change the rules after the fact. Even if this did succeed, it would apply <i>only</i> to future referendums (referenda?). It won&#x27;t change what happened on Thursday.<p>[Update:] Aside from the fact that it&#x27;s incredibly arrogant and disrespectful to have people vote until <i>you</i> like the result. I suspect this line of thinking is partly why people wanted to leave.
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mtgx将近 9 年前
&quot;We&#x27;re going to give YOU the choice between staying and leaving, so go ahead, choose whatever you like - leave, remain. Either one is good.&quot;<p>&quot;Wait, people actually voted to <i>leave</i>? Oh, no no no, that&#x27;s not good. We need a re-vote so people can vote the <i>right way</i>.&quot;<p>So let&#x27;s assume the government (still run by the Tories) allows this to happen. Why the farce of a referendum in the first place, if they&#x27;re going to re-do the vote a week later because they don&#x27;t like what the people chose? Why start this discussion in the first place, or why not say that &quot;we&#x27;d never allow this referendum to happen&quot; if Remain is what they wanted <i>all along</i>?
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m-i-l将近 9 年前
Apparently the Leave supporters were so distrustful of authority that they were taking pens to mark the ballot papers[0], so retrospectively changing the rules would be like trying to put out a fire by throwing on petrol.<p>Unfortunately the former United Kingdom has shown it is irrevocably divided, so should get on with trying to make the best of a bad situation, e.g. (in my view) by setting up an independent Scotland and independent London[1].<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.standard.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;politics&#x2F;brexit-backers-urge-supporters-to-vote-in-pen-because-they-fear-someone-might-rub-out-their-pencil-a3279386.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.standard.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;politics&#x2F;brexit-backers-urge-...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.change.org&#x2F;p&#x2F;sadiq-khan-declare-london-independent-from-the-uk-and-apply-to-join-the-eu" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.change.org&#x2F;p&#x2F;sadiq-khan-declare-london-independe...</a>
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skissane将近 9 年前
The demands of this petition will not be met. There will be no immediate replay of the Brexit referendum.<p>However, suppose the UK and the EU agree on terms for leaving – could there be another referendum to approve those specific terms? Obviously many of those who supported Remain will demand that; but, it&#x27;s concievable even some Leave supporters might, if they don&#x27;t like those terms. For example, what if the agreed terms include keeping freedom of movement between the EU and the UK, so the UK still has to accept unlimited immigration from the EU? In that case, it&#x27;s plausible that anti-immigration Leave supporters might join the calls for a second referendum. There&#x27;s no legal requirement for such a second referendum, but it might be politically appealling if the future post-Cameron UK Government starts to have doubts about the whole thing, or if public opinion on Brexit begins to sour. Now, the UK has voted &quot;Yes&quot; to a Brexit in principle, and obviously if such a second referendum got a &quot;Yes&quot; the UK would be out for sure. But what if the vote was &quot;No&quot; to the specific terms for leaving? If you want to leave but can&#x27;t reach agreement on terms to do so, do you stay in by default?
piotrjurkiewicz将近 9 年前
&quot;You will have to vote until outcome will be pro-EU.&quot;<p>Just like the Ireland few years ago.
f055将近 9 年前
AFAIK the law shouldn&#x27;t work backwards, so even if they implement it, this should not apply to the recent referendum...
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personjerry将近 9 年前
Could someone knowledgeable about British politics provide commentary about whether this might actually happen?
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UKAnon将近 9 年前
Some people are always trying to subvert democracy. I guess it is only democracy if they win.
xiphias将近 9 年前
AFAIK people need to vote in a prime minister who would trigger Chapter 50. It&#x27;s similar to the 2nd EU Referendum.
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_ao789将近 9 年前
Everybody who is able to sign this, you NEED to sign it.
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