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Airbnb Is Suing San Francisco to Block Rental Rules

113 点作者 tomsaffell将近 9 年前

14 条评论

holografix将近 9 年前
Can&#x27;t help but think of the obvious time and time again with the faux-sharing economy. Sharing is a pathetic use of neural linguistics, you&#x27;re not sharing, your not doing anyone a kindness, you&#x27;re making money and you&#x27;re providing a service.<p>Uber and Airbnb will be regulated legislative or through unions. Ask yourself just wtf are cabs so much more inefficient than Uber and hotels more expensive then Airbnb?<p>Few drivers depend completely on Uber for their income, Airbnb is still on a legal gray zone.<p>This won&#x27;t last forever. Uber drivers will unionise, tenants who live around Airbnb hosts will pressure the government for legislation and so will hotel providers.<p>Uber is pivoting to logistics. What&#x27;s Airbnb doing? Wouldn&#x27;t surprise me if they soon build their own hotel.
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swehner将近 9 年前
First amendment, for sure.<p>I&#x27;m guessing this is about this, &quot;The new law would require Airbnb and other short-term rental websites to post registration numbers on listings or email the number and name of the host to the Office of Short-Term Rentals, The City’s agency tasked with enforcing the regulations.&quot; (From <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfexaminer.com&#x2F;sf-poised-require-airbnb-list-registered-hosts-pay-fines&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfexaminer.com&#x2F;sf-poised-require-airbnb-list-regi...</a>)<p>So &quot;their&quot; &quot;free speech rights&quot; are &quot;violated&quot; because they have to post registration numbers.
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mc32将近 9 年前
When does Campoes term out anyway?<p>There certainly is a struggle between ownership rights and the right of cities to regulate business within their jurisdiction.<p>As a renter, I can sympathize with wanting to avail more rental properties to renters, but I am also very uneasy with politicians dictating what you can and cannot do with your property when that act in and of itself is not otherwise illegal. It&#x27;s not confiscation, but it also kerbs your ability let your property as you wish --and I say this as a renter who arguably would benefit from this politician&#x27;s policies.<p>PS move HQ to Brisbane and take the corp taxes with you.
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twinkletwinkle将近 9 年前
No legal expertise, but the thing that struck me is Campos&#x27; extremely flawed analogy. If we want to make comparisons to rental cars, the hosts are the rental companies. There is no third party platform to compare to AirBnB.
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kelnos将近 9 年前
So basically SF wants companies like Airbnb to do their police&#x2F;enforcement work for them. The city should be going after the unregistered renters themselves. Sure, that&#x27;s potentially harder, but I can see that it&#x27;d be a burden to order a company to do it for them.
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Spooky23将近 9 年前
Airbnb is an unlimited well of bad PR. They need to start whacking people with a clue-stick.
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techtosser1将近 9 年前
They must be extremely dependent on these commercial operators listing multiple units, else they wouldn&#x27;t be fighting this so hard.<p>It kind of makes their whole &quot;helping the middle class&quot; shtick even more nauseating.
ben_jones将近 9 年前
Regardless of how strong Airbnb&#x27;s legal standing is or isn&#x27;t, they are the definition of a company who believes it better to ask forgiveness then permission. I believe that maxim is all fine and good when you&#x27;re a person who cares about the well being of others, but when it&#x27;s a corporation whose only goal is profit or growth it has the potential to be extremely detrimental to society.
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tedmiston将近 9 年前
&gt; David Campos, a supervisor who has been harshly critical of Airbnb, called the ordinance a &quot;modest piece of legislation,&quot; according to the San Francisco Chronicle, adding &quot;If you are a rental car agency, you have to make sure the person that you rent that vehicle to has a license before you rent them a car. That is exactly what we are asking the short-term platforms to do here.&quot;<p>This analogy is obnoxiously flawed.<p>rental car agency:consumer != (airbnb:host or host:guest)
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mikeryan将近 9 年前
Would love to hear an opinion on this one from a legal mind, the case does not seem strong for Airbnb from my laymen&#x27;s couch.
bpodgursky将近 9 年前
Free speech rights are a stretch here. I wonder if you could make a viable case for the 3rd amendment though (to my knowledge it has never been done).<p>Strictly interpreted, the 3rd amendment prevents the government from being able to force homeowners to quarter soldiers. If you think about the real intent of the bill though, it&#x27;s obvious that the mindset is &quot;you are free to use your own house without government interference.&quot;<p>Realize that at the time, HUGE numbers of homeowners informally had a room or two for boarders to supplement their income. It would have been considered ridiculous at the time for the government to say you couldn&#x27;t lend a room out for money, which is probably why this interpretation was not formally codified.<p>It&#x27;s a stretch, but amendments have been interpreted in more creative ways to accomplish personal-freedom goals (think, right to privacy -- interpreted as an implied constitutional right, but not mentioned anywhere).
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abannin将近 9 年前
Kinda surprised that no one is debating jurisdiction here. Why federal and not state courts? Are federal judges more friendly to this type of case?
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underbrowny将近 9 年前
This is the biggest problem of sharing economy. To solve this problem we have to make new system not to fight with established system.
notliketherest将近 9 年前
I love to see individuals and companies step up and fight against the psychopaths that run San Francisco.
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