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Tor veteran exits, shuts down critical 'Tonga' node and relays

115 点作者 lensi将近 9 年前

9 条评论

justin_vanw将近 9 年前
Since he considers it not ethical to continue, my guess is that there is some kind of government action attempting to force them to sniff or backdoor the service.<p>As for why he is announcing he is shutting it down rather than just pulling the plug, pulling the plug may well be considered obstruction of justice, but just refusing to donate materially can&#x27;t be prevented by the government. It may well be that lawyers have advised him that by announcing his decision to not participate it gives the government reasonable notice to be able to find an alternative or take some action, and counting on there being no practical way for the government to respond without revealing that they are involved.<p>Edit: It may also be possible that he has become aware of a &#x27;looming&#x27; threat to de-anonymize the service but can&#x27;t speak of it, and he is announcing that he is pulling out since if he is subsequently compelled not to pull out it will act as a canary.
the_duke将近 9 年前
To me, this feels a lot like what transpired with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lavabit.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lavabit.com&#x2F;</a>. Of course, that was a service operated by a company, not a open source software and a distributed network, but there might be paralells.<p>If you haven&#x27;t read about it, read the post mortem on the Lavabit page.<p>To me, it&#x27;s very likely that the government demanded backdoors in TOR code itself, or backdoor access to critical TOR infrastructure (bridge nodes, directory authority, large exit nodes, ...), all under gag orders that forbid any mention of this to the public.<p>Probably in the interest of &#x27;national security&#x27;.<p>Can&#x27;t be sure, of course, but I would not feel comfortable with using TOR for anything sensitive anymore.
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forgottenpass将近 9 年前
Appelbaum and the board are out. So now I&#x27;m curious. What about recent events have transpired in a way that he has to cut ties?<p>Does the organization still housecleaning to do? The Tor leadership jumped on the grenade, presumably clearing the area for everyone else. Is there an entirely different angle that I&#x27;m missing? Because that vague of a post only implies one.
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mcherm将近 9 年前
In a project focused on privacy, vague unclear statements of this sort convey a certain implication. There is, of course, no way to be sure what is intended, and that is rather the point.
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code_research将近 9 年前
what events? It would be great if he spoke openly, so people not following tor very intensively would know what is so concerning. Yes, I am living under a rock.
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elcapitan将近 9 年前
How is a scheduled shutdown (2016-08-31) a &quot;torpedoing&quot;?
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chillydawg将近 9 年前
Maybe he&#x27;s being sued by the NSA for data and his only &quot;ethical&quot; choice is to just shut it down and walk away, since he&#x27;ll have been gagged by them in the same suit.
chunkyslink将近 9 年前
So what TOR alternatives are there? I came across this on here I think a few weeks back <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dspace.mit.edu&#x2F;handle&#x2F;1721.1&#x2F;99859" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dspace.mit.edu&#x2F;handle&#x2F;1721.1&#x2F;99859</a> but I&#x27;m not sure it is up and running or even if it is.
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jlgaddis将近 9 年前
All the rampant speculation in this discussion serves no good purpose and is more harmful than helpful.
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