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Mercedes-Benz shows off the first fully electric heavy urban transport truck

268 点作者 felixbraun将近 9 年前

20 条评论

netcan将近 9 年前
The &quot;externality&quot; most discussed is generally carbon emissions, for obvious reasons. It used to be particulates, for local health reasons. Noise rarely gets a mention.<p>But, if someone from an all electric future was dropped off in 2016 i think they&#x27;d really notice noise above everything else. Traffic noise in cities is a massive &quot;silent&quot; irritant. Even outside of cities, it&#x27;s amazing how far you need to be from a road to hear unadulterated wilderness. Off-road, dirt bikes, quads, water craft and such can really impact enjoyment of outdoor recreational places.<p>I don&#x27;t think the psychological impacts of this are fully understood, but it is understood that they aren&#x27;t trivial. The whole world will get so much more peaceful with combustion engines out of the picture.<p>Air travel is the one area where reducing noise would carry an obvious economic benefit to airlines. Unfortunately it&#x27;s the one of hardest ones to solve.
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agentgt将近 9 年前
I think this could be a big deal depending on future politics. I would not be surprised if Manhattan in 10 years or so only allows etrucks over the bridge (with certain exemptions of course).<p>If that happens there could be some interesting but boring (oxymoron intended) business opportunities like transfer stations at the borders of urban areas (switch engines).<p>This could also dramatically improve the safety of trucks as there are still an enormous amount of trucks that are not automatic and do not have antilock breaks (or whatever the analogous tech is these days).<p>By mandating electric engines the safety improvements could be had at the same time.<p>I like the name: eTruck.
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javiramos将近 9 年前
Trucks seem to be the perfect candidate for electric propulsion. The high torque of electric motors just make sense for urban acceleration&#x2F;deceleration. As a pedestrian, one of the things I hate the most is the the dense, black smoke from heavy trucks.
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castratikron将近 9 年前
This is where it&#x27;d make sense for the battery to be removable. A truck company could keep a bunch of charged batteries at their warehouse and swap batteries out every time a truck comes back for a new delivery.
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sverige将近 9 年前
Electric trucks were common in cities a century ago. The truck museum at &quot;The World&#x27;s Largest Truck Stop&quot; has a couple of well-preserved examples.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iowa80truckstop.com&#x2F;inews&#x2F;iowa-80-trucking-museum-to-host-100th-birthday-party-for-1911-walker-electric-truck&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iowa80truckstop.com&#x2F;inews&#x2F;iowa-80-trucking-museum-to...</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;earlyelectric.com&#x2F;carcompanies.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;earlyelectric.com&#x2F;carcompanies.html</a>
ourmandave将近 9 年前
<i>Daimler says in a press release that it anticipates prices for its batteries to have dropped by a factor of 2.5 between 1997 and 2025, while battery performance will have increased in the same proportion.</i><p>Why are they &quot;anticipating&quot; a price drop starting in 1997?
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ilikeatari将近 9 年前
In the fleet space Smith Electric worked on this since 2005 and it seems like their trucks are in the perpetual prototype mode. The battery energy density vs cost still seem to be the major factor. Interestingly enough even regular gasoline engines are pretty reare and diesel dominates the field. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Smith_Electric_Vehicles" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Smith_Electric_Vehicles</a>
_ph_将近 9 年前
It is great to see that Mercedes is working at electrical trucks. Electrical cars are just the start, the real emission saving will be electrical trucks. Though one has to note that as stated in the article: &#x27;a “conceivable” launch window of “the beginning of the next decade” for wide-scale production and real-world use.&#x27;<p>So it is an early prototype - it will be interesting to see which timeline Tesla has for their offering.
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taco_emoji将近 9 年前
&gt; <i>Anyone who’s ever been near a large truck...knows the absolute pain of hearing that huge chugging internal combustion engine wrestling with getting up to a pacing speed.</i><p>IMHO the noise from semi trucks is nothing compared to cruiser-style motorcycles.
mgr86将近 9 年前
As an aside I&#x27;d love a small to mid size electric pick up. I don&#x27;t do much driving and we share a volt at home. But a lot of things I don&#x27;t want to put into a car with a hatchback. Mulch, compost, gas cans, leaky bags of ice melt, plants from a nursery, etc.
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kixpanganiban将近 9 年前
Okay, but I need to ask the important question here: when is this coming out on Euro Truck Simulator?
minionslave将近 9 年前
100 years from now, our cities will be much quieter.
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pjc50将近 9 年前
Nice step. As they say, there&#x27;s a couple of big advantages to electric for trucks: low noise and emissions are advantages for everyone around them, and the high torque of electric motors at low speed is convenient for the driver.
cptskippy将近 9 年前
Someone needs to write a program called &quot;dedazzeler&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dazzle_camouflage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dazzle_camouflage</a>, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bedazzler" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bedazzler</a>) that can identify and remove the camouflage from vehicles that automakers so often like to use.
ams6110将近 9 年前
Wonder what the typical daily mileage is on a local urban tractor&#x2F;trailer? 120 miles doesn&#x27;t seem to me like near enough. Maybe eventually charging stations will become commonplace at most freight terminals so trucks can charge as they are being unloaded (though the unload may only take a few minutes if it&#x27;s just a pallet or two).
niels_olson将近 9 年前
Concrete camouflage paint for prototypes. Very savvy. I wonder if our heavy industry (GM, Ford, Boeing, Lockheed, General Dynamics, etc) benefit from NRO intelligence of what&#x27;s going on in European and Asian industrial sites.
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codeulike将近 9 年前
Its just a prototype. Production not for another bazillion years or so.<p>Also the range is low as mtgx pointed out.<p>&gt; That’s in part due to its max range of 200 kilometres (about 124 miles).<p>&quot;If that&#x27;s NEDC, then it&#x27;s more like 85 miles EPA.&quot;
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nullcipher将近 9 年前
Fwiw, Daimler is an investor in Tesla
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douche将近 9 年前
Given that most of the truckers I know are trading in their newer, more heavily computerized trucks for their old models that were simpler and more mechanical (in a staggering number of cases, for the exact machines that they traded up from), I&#x27;m not sure how this is going to go.
mtgx将近 9 年前
I hope that color is just a prank. It hurts my eyes just looking at it. Can car makers stop making &quot;quirky&quot; EV designs? Nobody is asking for them.<p>&gt; That’s in part due to its max range of 200 kilometres (about 124 miles).<p>If that&#x27;s NEDC, then it&#x27;s more like 85 miles EPA.
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