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The Hyperloop: BUSTED

38 点作者 cjdrake将近 9 年前

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iMerNibor将近 9 年前
Issues I can see here as an outsider:<p>Comparing a giant vacuum chamber with a tube. The pressure on the tube will be spread better since the tube itself is so small. No need for huge thick concrete walls<p>Expansion: 6000 vacuum seals doesnt sound too bad... Just do regular checks on them<p>Pipe failures:<p>You could have airlocks every so often to seperate pipe segments when not in use Double (or even tripple) walled tubes, detect failures and shut down segments and conduct regular tests on segments Use strong enough walls to resist vandalism damage (&quot;What happens if someone shoots a hole into it?&quot;) - Thick enough steel walls should probably do it, everything else is just a risk to be accepted (see terrorists on planes or any other thing ever) Not like you have to run the thing on a full vacuum either, partial atmosphere would help immensely too and will minimize the issues<p>&quot;When it fails and you somehow survive the crash you will be stuck inside a tube with a diminishing air supply&quot;<p>Again, there could be o2 tanks or filters in place to purify the air in case of an accident. Its not like it is impossible. It wasnt explicitly mentioned but he makes it sound like it is impossible to solve and there&#x27;s nothing one can do except letting everyone inside the capsule suffocate to death and having them stuck in the tube for eternity<p>I can very much agree this is way too early to say ANYTHING and media shouldn&#x27;t be hyping it as a ready made product, but please - its not like there won&#x27;t be engineers to figure all this stuff out before, there&#x27;ll be countless security tests and measures in place before taking it live.<p>It&#x27;s not like they&#x27;re trying to steal money off of people like the solar roadway guys either (unless I missed something?)
Fej将近 9 年前
Thunderf00t with another brilliant debunk.<p>These problems could be solved by having the Hyperloop operate at 1 ATM - but then what advantage does it have? Could the action of pulling the air in front of the tube to the back create a lower pressure in front and higher at the back, thus helping to propel the craft?<p>I vaguely remember reading something like this. Would that make it viable?
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weinzierl将近 9 年前
All the problems the video talks about[1] boil down to the low pressure environment in the tube.<p>The video seems to assume that in the Hyperloop tube there is a &quot;space like&quot; vacuum while in reality the Hyperloop is planned to have a pressure of 100 Pa in the tube.<p>&gt; To speed things further, air would be pumped from hyperloop tubes down to 100 pascals, or one-thousandth of the air pressure at sea level, reducing wind resistance. The remaining air would be compressed and fed through skis that run the length of the undercarriage to levitate the train. [2]<p>The tube will have to withstand a pressure of about 1000 Pa which is about 100 kg&#x2F;m*m. Doesn&#x27;t sound so wild. Obviously the pressure will not be constant along the tube and it&#x27;s not clear where the 100 Pa apply. In front of the capsule, behind the capsule, far from the capsule? Maybe for most of the tube the pressure will be much higher?<p>[1] I could only watch it without sound and closed captions. Maybe I missed something? Also it&#x27;s funny how Youtube sometimes transcribes Hyperloop as hyperbole:-)<p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pbs.org&#x2F;wgbh&#x2F;nova&#x2F;next&#x2F;tech&#x2F;hyperloop-and-high-speed-trains" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pbs.org&#x2F;wgbh&#x2F;nova&#x2F;next&#x2F;tech&#x2F;hyperloop-and-high-sp...</a>
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ohstopitu将近 9 年前
I was under the impression that not all parts of the hyperloop would be near 0 ATM. only the parts when the capsule was moving would be ~0 ATM. (so each section of the hyperloop would be at 0 ATM for an extremely short period of time per journey)
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pontifier将近 9 年前
Normally I like this guy, but this doesn&#x27;t seem correct on many counts. I&#x27;ve seen flexible vacuum gaskets for vibration isolation that would easily allow for thermal expansion. I&#x27;m fairly sure the volume of air rushing into a break will go down as the pressure locally reaches 1 atmosphere so the &quot;wall of pressure&quot; wouldn&#x27;t really act the way he describes because of drag on the walls. ETC...
decayy将近 9 年前
Does hyperloop require innovation ? Yes it does. If we just stopped innovating because the problems were tough, we would be stuck in the stone ages.
jamesrom将近 9 年前
The biggest problem this guy has is easily solved by having a valve on each section of pipe. As soon as a failure is detected, open all valves and let the pressure equalise evenly across the entire pipe, instead of waiting for a wall of air to hit you.
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fncndhdhc将近 9 年前
Cringey youtube personality breaks some stuff on camera and claims to know more than teams of certified engineers.
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fdsaaf将近 9 年前
It&#x27;ll be amusing to watch this video on my first hyperloop trip. There&#x27;s a long history of people saying that innovative things can&#x27;t be done.
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