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Ask HN: Your opinions about bots?

14 点作者 kyloren将近 9 年前
Facebook, Microsoft are putting lot of effort behind pushing bots inside a conventional ui.<p>What&#x27;s your idea about bots? Worth investing?

8 条评论

wingerlang将近 9 年前
I don&#x27;t like these &quot;bot assistants&quot; that seems so popular nowdays. Like who wants to type some string that may or may not be picked up correctly by some bot?<p>Some examples I see is something like<p>- &quot;hey $financialbotnam&quot;<p>- &quot;Hey $user what do you want?&quot;<p>- &quot;Please send me my transations for groceries, bla and bla for july 24 2032 until august 23 2064, thanks&quot;<p>- &quot;Okay!&quot;<p>- &quot;Your transactions are bla and bla&quot;<p>- &quot;Thanks $financialbot, and what about my blah and bleh?&quot;<p>- &quot;bla bla bla&quot;<p>And so on, seems just.. annoying.<p>That being said, on my local phone-website there have been one of those &quot;Ask Sara&quot; bots (since like 10 years) which I found works okay for what it is, but I suspect (and treat it like) it is just some search. So I usually just ask some keywords.<p>Which is kind of my point against the bots, I don&#x27;t want to type stuff..<p>And I don&#x27;t use voice stuff like for Siri etc. But if I did I might have a different opinion.
vikyan将近 9 年前
I am very bullish on bots, with certain reservations of course. Do I think they will replace apps? Probably not. But I do think they are creating new &quot;field&quot; for which they are the best use case.<p>One type of chatbots that I think will be revolutionary is making chatbots that bring people together. Messenger just hit 1 billion users[0] so that&#x27;s a huge userbase that&#x27;s already connected together just by virtue of having a Facebook account. Chatbots imo have the advantage of not needing a &quot;share with your friends&quot; button that apps do. For chatbots, sharing and social connectedness is already built into the platform and the winners will be the ones that take full advantage of this.<p>Of course I might be biased because I am currently building a chatbot and have made one that is slowly gaining traction. But this is just my opinon, and the verdict is still out on whether this is just a fad or here to stay.<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;7&#x2F;20&#x2F;12235476&#x2F;facebook-messenger-1-billion-users-milestone-ios-app" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;7&#x2F;20&#x2F;12235476&#x2F;facebook-messenge...</a>
lumberjack将近 9 年前
Well eventually when they become smart enough they will surely be useful.<p>At this point I cannot say to Cortana, &quot;the Camera App doesn&#x27;t work, it probably requires some drivers, fix it&quot; and get any meaningful help out of it.
danm07将近 9 年前
toomuchtodo&#x27;s comment is on the money, it is a bit of a fad right now with the recent acquisitions. But only by a margin.<p>AI is a bit of a counter-intuitive market: it&#x27;s a high growth segment, but the structure of the market top heavy, and several things make it an unattractive investment:<p>1. Democratization: much of the technology is the public domain, meaning anyone with a CS degree can muddle together their own (and many have). That means if you invest, you investing in pure AI, which means you&#x27;re investing in cutting-edge technology - i.e. Research, which very difficult to assess.<p>2. Dependencies &amp; Go-To-Market: intelligence (i.e. pattern predictions) that&#x27;s actually useful on a market wide basis require massive amounts of training data. There are a couple of resources, like ImageNet &amp; Yahoo&#x27;s data dump, but in the interim - AI needs to be domain specific. As such, the dependency is a widely used application (i.e. Facebook, Instagram, Google). You see the dilemma. Therefore, what seems the likely outcome is acquisition.<p>3. Unit of Economics: For this sector, it&#x27;s the accuracy of its predictions. This is almost too one dimensional to assess as the basis for investment. Acquisitions decisions are made almost exclusively by the R&amp;D department. Therefore, if you invest, you need to know what makes one AI different&#x2F;better than the next.<p>IMO, it&#x27;s too early to put money in. The structure of the market is still nascent, heavily favoring incumbents (Google &amp; Amazon offering AI predictions as a service). It&#x27;s difficult to see how an AI startup can break in, and how it can be profitable.<p>Take the above with a grain of salt, as it&#x27;s tailored to my risk appetite.
ruler88将近 9 年前
Our obsession with AI has come and went several times in recent history. Conversational AI is becoming more promising thanks to neural network. However, I don&#x27;t think we are quite there yet in terms of the technology or the application.<p>The thing is, if a company is actually able to figure out how to do this conversational AI right, that company is be a game changer.
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nivertech将近 9 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11915194" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11915194</a>
kleer001将近 9 年前
Bots streaming from big popular commercial corporations? Not worth the time.<p>Bots emerging from finance, law, academia, eastern european kids in a garage? Treasure.
toomuchtodo将近 9 年前
It seems to still be in the fad phase.