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Reasons not to use Apple

56 点作者 e19293001将近 9 年前

21 条评论

Frondo将近 9 年前
&quot;I can&#x27;t sympathize much with those app developers, since they are making proprietary software. They all deserve to fail. However, that doesn&#x27;t excuse the way Apple treats them.&quot;<p>This is one of the first things I read on this page.<p>This kind of uncompromising, unsympathetic view makes me think less that Stallman stands for something valuable, and more that he wants to use his principles to be a dick.<p>I mean, I get it, it&#x27;s Stallman. He always has a few nuggets of insight, wrapped up in page upon page of pontification. But &quot;they deserve to fail&quot;?<p>The other thing that gets me is how muddled his political views end up being. Like this bit, &quot;Apple is culpable if its products are made by people working a longer workweek than is allowed in the US.&quot; Really? They <i>are</i> culpable? Or you think they should be? China&#x27;s a sovereign nation, it can set its own rules, but that&#x27;s worth discussing and not just making some blanket assertion.<p>And, for someone who tends to play so pedantic, I&#x27;m surprised he&#x27;s claiming that &quot;the mere practice of referring to service staff as &quot;geniuses&quot; is dishonest already&quot; without actually assessing whether Apple has only hired geniuses for its stores.<p>Last...&quot;iBad&quot;? Where&#x27;s the eyes-rolling emoticon?
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chasing将近 9 年前
&gt; I can&#x27;t sympathize much with those app developers, since they are making proprietary software. They all deserve to fail.<p>What a shitty, shitty attitude.
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sjwright将近 9 年前
In an ideal world these criticisms would be relevant. The reality is, most people who buy computers aren&#x27;t RMS, they won&#x27;t be able to build and support their own stack. These consumers own their computing devices in much the same way as a Nintendo GameBoy or a Thermomix; his principles are contextually irrelevant for anyone looking to purchase a tool to access Facebook.<p>Most of his reasons fall away when you consider the product an appliance rather than a computer. Heck, I&#x27;m a computer programmer and <i>I treat my smartphone as an appliance.</i> It makes me wonder how seriously RMS takes his stance. Does he refuse to drive any modern vehicle with an ECU? Does he refuse to refrigerate his milk in any modern fridge with a microcontroller?
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slyzmud将近 9 年前
I think he has a point in many things. But sadly, he also criticizes every alternative like Google, Microsoft and even some linux distros. It&#x27;s scary but every day we are closer to the future he has told. I bet that in some years we will be thinking why didn&#x27;t we listened to him.
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AckSyn将近 9 年前
His constant distain for anything not GPL&#x27;d is rather off-putting, and won&#x27;t be winning over anyone with the constant derision with comments like &quot;deserve to fail&quot;, &quot;iBad&quot; and &quot;iThings&quot;.<p>Really, Stallman? Is this the best that he can do? It reads like some angsty teenage, knee-jerk Apple hater bullshit that&#x27;s reminiscent of the late 90&#x27;s.
timewarrior将近 9 年前
Stallman has done a great service to OSS. However his personality and stances might be detrimental. I happened to meet him around 12 years back and that meeting turned me away from associating with anything which he is involved. I was helping organize the biggest software event in India and as a part of that we had invited him to speak. I was responsible for his arrangements and he was very rude to me throughout. He kept making fun of me because of my accent (which apparently was sufficient to get a leadership role in US at one of the Fortune 15 companies). Needless to say it was very childish and a complete turnoff.
mankash666将近 9 年前
Done deal. GNU Hurd FTW. Will post a follow up from my new Hurd workstation.<p>Edit: never really got the display and network cards to work, stuck with my Mac for now
simbalion将近 9 年前
&quot;It should be illegal to make or distribute computers which are platforms for censorship.&quot;<p>Stallman understands the consequences of these things in a way that most humans are blind to. I am so glad that someone as high profile as him has the guts to stand up and persistently deliver the same message, maybe someday everyone will wake up and figure out they&#x27;ve been paving the road to hell before it&#x27;s too late (if it&#x27;s not already..)
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falcolas将近 9 年前
Remember: This is Stallman&#x27;s opinion. If you share his point of view that the rights of the user should be valued above the rights of the programmer and the corporation, then this is the rant for you.<p>But if you don&#x27;t; if you value convenience, maximizing profits, and minimizing development effort, then this will probably annoy you.
confounded将近 9 年前
I donate to the FSF (and favor the GPL) in spite of Stallman. I like what me means, but tend to dislike how he says almost everything.<p>I&#x27;ve been quietly hoping that a more personable figurehead for the free software movement might emerge for some time.
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qwertyuiop924将近 9 年前
Stallman sticks to his principals, and I can admire him for that. But he&#x27;s actually outright unpleasant to be around, because he&#x27;s facist about his ideals in a way that most of us cannot or do not want to be. I get that he&#x27;s against proprietary software, but calling John Ousterhout a cancer while licking his foot? It&#x27;s not winning people over.<p>The EFF and Mozilla have done more for Stallman&#x27;s cause than Stallman ever did. ESR got this one right.<p>Jeez. I never thought I&#x27;d say ESR was right about something that wasn&#x27;t a piece of code. I guess a broken clock really is right twice a day.
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hoodoof将近 9 年前
I use Apple Macintosh because, despite the various bugs, it is an outstanding operating system and works extremely well and is built on Unix. Ive followed operating systems closely for more then 30 years and frankly no company or open source effort managed to make anything as good as OSX in a whole range of ways.<p>I don&#x27;t care much about principles - Apple made the best OS so I use it. If you want me to use something else then it has to be at least as good.
sergiotapia将近 9 年前
Richardo Stallmanu - the quintessential &#x2F;g&#x2F;entleman incarnate, no? But hey, here we are talking about him.
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jalami将近 9 年前
On one hand, I like that Stallman is opinionated and forward about his politics and how we wants the world to work. So many people are silent or inactive about the things they care about, wishing for people at large to just change. You ruffle some feathers when you open up and say what&#x27;s on your mind, but hopefully after enough rational argument, you come off better and with a better message.<p>On the other, I don&#x27;t really like everything he says, despite being a pretty firm OSS supporter. He conflates so much with open source it&#x27;s nauseating. People choose a license for all kinds of reasons and I understand he&#x27;s a cheerleader, I am too, but conflating everything hurts open source as much as it hurts proprietary actors.<p>It&#x27;s a market. Some people will want to buy your product because they see its open nature as a benefit they are willing to pay more for, others don&#x27;t care and will not pay more. The same goes for privacy promises, DRM or which devices you support, the color etc. If people buy or sell things that you would rather not, that&#x27;s cool. Pointing out that everyone at every level of a proprietary agreement is <i>duped</i> by some nefarious puppet-master and the entire machine should fail is childish. Furthermore, throwing in things like economics and employment fairness into the mix really confuses the message to the determent of OSS developers. In like kind, I may be a vegetarian, but PETA certainly doesn&#x27;t speak for me.<p>I realize he thinks the current market is trash and slight deviations from the status quo won&#x27;t bring real change, but most people just don&#x27;t care enough about what many of us care about. That&#x27;s the hard truth. Slinging mud and building straw-men isn&#x27;t how we fix this problem. It just makes OSS proponents look out of touch.<p>Also, some people commented on his sometimes hypocritical impurity. eg. making phone calls on locked down phones and using closed source websites occasionally. Being OSS pure in 2016 is crazy hard and getting harder, again due to market forces. I think there&#x27;s a lot to fault Stallman on, but his deviation from OSS purity is not one of them.
hoodoof将近 9 年前
It&#x27;s really hard to get on board with such extreme opinions.
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toshka将近 9 年前
This is what you would expect from Stallman. He&#x27;s extremely smart guy, but such categorical position makes it impossible to agree with him for utilitarian reasons. I don&#x27;t wanna to restrict my comfort just to prove a point. Besides, we are all under surveillance regardless.
MicroBerto将近 9 年前
Here&#x27;s a shorter list: ~3x the cost for nearly the same thing you can get from Samsung.
sneak将近 9 年前
I would pay Real Money for viable alternatives that respect my time and attention and don&#x27;t fuck up my life.<p>Nobody has built any, sadly.
devin将近 9 年前
Hey, not a big surprise to see this on stallman.org, but I thought I&#x27;d drop in to mention Apple created ALAC (which is basically FLAC, just with lock-in), which when I first discovered it, found to be a pretty egregious example.
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mcphage将近 9 年前
iThings? iBad? Was this written by a 19 year old edgelord? Does he write Microsoft as &quot;M$&quot;, too?
toodlebunions将近 9 年前
Rehashing 2012?