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Computing machinery and intelligence (1950)

75 点作者 drikerf将近 9 年前

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firasd将近 9 年前
Interesting passage:<p><i>“The fact that Babbage’s Analytical Engine was to be entirely mechanical will help us to rid ourselves of a superstition. Importance is often attached to the fact that modern digital computers are electrical, and that the nervous system also is electrical. Since Babbage’s machine was not electrical, and since all digital computers are in a sense equivalent, we see that this use of electricity cannot be of theoretical importance. Of course electricity usually comes in where fast signalling is concerned, so that it is not surprising that we find it in both these connections. In the nervous system chemical phenomena are at least as important as electrical. In certain computers the storage system is mainly acoustic. The feature of using electricity is thus seen to be only a very superficial similarity. If we wish to find such similarities we should took rather for mathematical analogies of function.”</i><p>It&#x27;s easy to look at some technology (like machine learning today?) and think: this is how the brain works. But Turing reminds us: not so fast.
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AndrewOMartin将近 9 年前
Here are a few points of note for anyone who wants to seriously get to grips with this historically significant article.<p>1 - Notice that the first paragraph is dedicated to the rejection of the question &quot;Can machines think&quot; later described as &quot;too meaningless to deserve discussion&quot;, the proposed experiment is not presented as a way to answer that question, but as a &quot;closely related&quot; replacement.<p>2 - It&#x27;s a matter of continuing debate whether Turing actually expected the experiment to be performed, or to remain a thought experiment. Some evidence for the former is that in a less popular paper &quot;Intelligent Machinery&quot; (Turing, 1948) he describes an idealised form of an experiment he did actually perform, where a person plays chess against an opponent that may be either a human player or a human following an algorithm, and attempts to determine the nature of his opponent. Evidence for the latter is that Turing explains the experiment isn&#x27;t about existent machines, but &quot;imaginable computers which would do well&quot;.<p>3 - The precise experiment is not clear, when &quot;a machine takes the part of [the hidden man]&quot;, is the interrogator told he&#x27;s questioning a man and a woman, or a machine and a woman? Is it significant that the machine takes the male&#x27;s place, and takes the place of the deceiver? Can questions be directed to one hidden player, or are they always seen by both? Note that to &quot;pass&quot; is not to merely pass as a human, but to be as good as a human at this game of bluff and deception. Note also that the woman&#x27;s aim is to be correctly identified as such. Also later in the paper Turing mentions &quot;five minutes of questioning&quot;, if that includes the time to type the questions to each individual and receive responses, that doesn&#x27;t leave much time for proper interrogation.<p>4 - Turing notes that a machine might be doing something that &quot;ought to be described as thinking&quot; and still fail to pass the test, but that should a machine pass we needn&#x27;t concern ourself with this possibility.
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femto将近 9 年前
If you&#x27;re interested in how Turing developed the ideas in this paper, I can fully recommend the Turing biography by Andrew Hodges. I&#x27;m halfway though it now. It&#x27;s an interesting read, as apart from Turning&#x27;s life, it tries to reconstruct the relationships that he had with fellow researchers, the environment in which he was working and the development of his thinking.
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pbsd将近 9 年前
<p><pre><code> We can demonstrate more forcibly that any such statement would be unjustified. For suppose we could be sure of finding such laws if they existed. Then given a discrete-state machine it should certainly be possible to discover by observation sufficient about it to predict its future behaviour, and this within a reasonable time, say a thousand years. But this does not seem to be the case. I have set up on the Manchester computer a small programme using only 1,000 units of storage, whereby the machine supplied with one sixteen- figure number replies with another within two seconds. I would defy anyone to learn from these replies sufficient about the programme to be able to predict any replies to untried values. </code></pre> This is possibly one of the first examples of a pseudorandom function as we understand the term today. I would love to know what Turing&#x27;s function was, and how breakable it would be with today&#x27;s techniques.
fauria将近 9 年前
I really enjoyed the 2014 film about Alan Turing, &quot;The Imitation Game&quot; <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt2084970&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt2084970&#x2F;</a>, named after this article: <i>&quot;The new form of the problem can be described in terms of a game which we call the &#x27;imitation game.&#x27;&quot;</i>