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Billionaire founder of Free launches free coding college

135 点作者 chewymouse将近 9 年前

11 条评论

gregschlom将近 9 年前
I visited 42 in Paris a while ago and chatted with some students. It&#x27;s impressive. Technically, the program is really good. They start with some pretty low level stuff (they learn C and reimplement bits of the std lib) and go from there.<p>But the most impressive thing was the potential of the school as a &quot;social elevator&quot; (ascenseur social) as we say in French - meaning a way for people from lower class backgrounds to land middle &#x2F; upper class jobs. One such story that stuck with me was a guy who used to work construction jobs. Then he landed a job as a sales guy at the French equivalent of Best Buy. There he heard of 42 and signed up for it on the demo computers in the store (he had no computer or internet access of its own). When I met him, he was halfway through 42&#x27;s program, and he&#x27;s probably working a pretty nice job now. Truly an inspiring story.
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mrb将近 9 年前
3 of the 4 cofounders of 42 have previously worked at Epita, a private French computer science school that I attended and graduated from in 2003. Specifically, Nicolas Sadirac was the key director-level person in charge of pretty much everything: designing the extensive computer labs and networks used by all students and staff for <i>everything</i> (NetBSD and SunOS workstations, OSF&#x2F;1 servers, NNTP newsgroups, a custom internal instant messaging system &quot;Netsoul&quot;, etc... aah memories), selecting which classes to teach, hiring professors, and as a true hacker himself I believe he was even writing&#x2F;designing (at least initially) the various programming tests, including those used during the famous &quot;piscine&quot;. As to Kwame, he was working closely directly under Nicolas. I remember him as being also very talented, jovial, and very loud :) Florian, I don&#x27;t remember him personally. I am less sure what connection Xavier and Nicolas have, but they seem to have known each other for a long time. Xavier appears to have not attended our taught at Epita? I could be wrong.<p>Epita was very successful thanks to its insanely intense focus on fundamentals: algorithms, programming, OS&#x2F;compiler&#x2F;DB design, low level stuff (reimplementing the standard C library, a 3D engine, a UNIX shell, etc). I absolutely loved all of this. However its investors and other directors wanted to change the school to have more general&#x2F;non-programming courses in order to be recognized by the CTI (commissions des titres d&#x27;ingénieur, basically to give Epita&#x27;s diploma more credence in the eyes of mainstream employers). But Nicolas disagreed and believed keeping the focus on fundamentals was key.<p>So in 1999 he left and started his own school called Epitech. For a while Epita and Epitech shared buildings and even some professors.<p>Eventuality Epitech became as successful as Epita (even more in my opinion). It gained a great reputation and graduates are courted by many employers.<p>I have been following the progress of 42 over the last few years, and I am really excited for them. They have the right team to succeed, that&#x27;s for sure.
tek4将近 9 年前
The school 42 its NOT A BOOTCAMP. I think people are not reading the article because i see a lot of people comparing it to bootcamps. It lasts a lot more than bootcamps, 3 years and students never learn rails javascript or any web developement stuff. [EDIT] You learn the base, lowllevel stuff and you code a lot. Afterwards you are able to pick any language or framework in a week. Students learn to teach themselves.
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yodsanklai将近 9 年前
I&#x27;ve always been suspicious about those schools. Computer science is far more than just &quot;coding&quot;. While I&#x27;m sure many cool projects can be done with patience and motivation, there is also a lot of fundamental knowledge that is hard to acquire just by doing unsupervised coding projects.
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d--b将近 9 年前
Would love to see comments from someone studying there or someone who has done it in France. Also, I understand the costs of running this school are low, but still how are they funding this?
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jokoon将近 9 年前
I was admitted for more tests for the one in paris, but living in paris is outright impossible for me money wise.<p>The idea is great, but when you&#x27;re poor, the price of the school is not the only problem. In france education is already free, and the problem is still the cost of living.<p>Obviously it is a great alternative because the selection process in other universities is tedious (you need to be good in high school etc), meanwhile with 42 you just do some fancy tests, so it&#x27;s more open.<p>But I&#x27;m curious about how poor students can really finance staying at 42. Students here are already working more hours outside so they can study.<p>Obviously, making such school in the US is going to make it more interesting than 42 in france.
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bogomipz将近 9 年前
Was anybody else surprised to see beginners are taught C and spend time reimplementing parts of the standard library. C is pretty low level for introduction to coding no?
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prawn将近 9 年前
I think we&#x27;ll see more of these types of opportunities, both private and public. And we&#x27;ll get to the point that motivation is a big, remaining issue - starting a program like this (or any online course) and seeing it through.
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zouhair将近 9 年前
One of the things I miss from France, my Freebox (which is actually 2 boxes), that thing&#x27;s a beast.
caub将近 9 年前
it&#x27;s great, except the Macs
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dizzy3gg将近 9 年前
Stupid Questions :(