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Ask HN: What's the limits of planetary imaging?

2 点作者 forgottenacc56超过 8 年前
Is there a limit for some reason of the optical pictures that we could get of planets in other systems?<p>What&#x27;s the best theoretical direct image picture possible of a planet in another system?

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dalke超过 8 年前
FWIW, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_directly_imaged_exoplanets" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_directly_imaged_exopla...</a> is a list of directly imaged exoplanets. These all appear as point sources. I assume you want to be able to see something the size of a continent on a planet?<p>There are different limits depending on your choice of technology. One is the angular resolution. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Angular_resolution" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Angular_resolution</a> . The wider the telescope diameter, the better the resolution.<p>Here&#x27;s the best that Hubble could see of Pluto - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasa.gov&#x2F;mission_pages&#x2F;hubble&#x2F;science&#x2F;pluto-20100204.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasa.gov&#x2F;mission_pages&#x2F;hubble&#x2F;science&#x2F;pluto-20100...</a> . A planet the size of Earth could be resolved to the same detail if it were 5.5x the distance as Pluto, or about 200-250 AU, which is about 30-35 light hours away.<p>The nearest star system is light years away, so Hubble won&#x27;t work.<p>It&#x27;s possible to make a larger telescope. The key realization is that &quot;D&quot; in the equation doesn&#x27;t mean the entire telescope must be that far apart, only that the two most distant points are D. This is called <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Interferometry" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Interferometry</a> . The Cambridge Optical Aperture Synthesis Telescope, for example, &quot;was the first long-baseline interferometer to obtain high-resolution images of the surfaces of stars other than our sun.&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Cambridge_Optical_Aperture_Synthesis_Telescope" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Cambridge_Optical_Aperture_Syn...</a><p>Yellow light has a λ=580 nm wavelength. If your target resolution is 1000km (the Earth is 6,371 km across, so a 6x6 image) at Proxima Centauri some 4.24 light years away, then:<p><pre><code> θ = 1000&#x2F;4E13 = 1&#x2F;4E10 D = 1.22 λ&#x2F;θ = 1.22*580*40 m = 28 km across </code></pre> COAST, above, is 100 meters across.<p>This is the limit due to diffraction. The atmosphere makes it worse, so you probably want this in space. I believe it&#x27;s also a difficult engineering problem, as the wavelengths needs to be in phase - it&#x27;s not simply a matter of having telescopes on both sides of the planet and combining the results.<p>There are other methods, like gravitational lensing. I don&#x27;t know enough to say anything about it.
PaulHoule超过 8 年前
I don&#x27;t know what the maximum resolution is, but one of the game changing discoveries in SETI is that a probe can be send out 500 Au or so to use the sun&#x27;s gravitational lens. The efficiency of this is so high that it really is plausible that somebody could pick up our radio signals.