Legendary Apple Engineer Gets Rejected for Genius Bar Job

It goes the other way too. The older I get, the less inclined I am to work for any company. I just no longer believe in really any corporate mission. I&#x27;m not inclined to work hard for anyone except me. Most companies seem to be doing things that are either uninteresting or trivial or silly.<p>I was super ambitious and worked super hard for other people when I was younger and now why the heck should I do that for some other company?

I have wanted to run an experiment of famous programmers or computer scientists applying to jobs at Google&#x2F;Facebook&#x2F;Etc (under an assumed identity) and seeing if they get rejected. My hypothesis is that there would be several notable rejections.<p>Unfortunately, I do not not anyone well enough to conduct this experiment.

As some one in their 40&#x27;s I&#x27;m really hoping this situation will improve.<p>One bad thing is there does not seem to be much social stigma against this kind of discrimination. You could engage in it, talk about it with friends, and probably not raise a eyebrow.

On face value this story seems ironic, but there’s a lot of questions in my mind. What is the skill set overlap between an Apple engineer and an Apple genius? Although Mr. Scheinberg’s experience may be useful in addressing technical issues, would a retired engineer be able to comfortably transition to a customer service role at Apple?

My local Apple store has a bunch of older people working in the store. They are often just as knowledgeable as the younger kids running around, and have all kinds of cool stories to tell about how things &quot;used to be done&quot;.<p>I actually prefer to work with one of the older people when making my purchase because I don&#x27;t feel nearly as rushed and it seems to me to be a lot more personal...

You could be a great engineer but horrible in sales, or dealing with troubled customers like in this case.<p>Just because companies have the ability to discriminate you, does not mean you can accuse them of age discrimination that is based on your prejudices, not on reality.

So, how is he chatting with people who may know irritating little about their iPhones etc? What are his people skills like?

So? It&#x27;s a sales job, not an engineering job.

Ive seen a older sales people in some Apple stores. A good sales manager knows customers relate to people their own age.

Do american interviewers actually say, entirely unqualified, &quot;we&#x27;ll be in touch&quot;, and then never actually send ANY follow-up?

Weird, the text is an inch wide. Given that the three inches of whitespace on either side of the text haven&#x27;t changed width, I guess we know which part of their site Business Insider think is most important.

Besides the sanctity of old people as a reliable voting block, why is age discrimination a problem? If companies are stupid enough to not hire good candidates, or under pay the ones they do hire, then they&#x27;ll lose out against the better companies that don&#x27;t do those things.<p>Plus, it&#x27;s my understanding[1] that it&#x27;s not discrimination to refuse to hire someone for being &quot;too young&quot; or &quot;too inexperienced&quot;. How is that not discrimination if the bright eyed youngster is equally qualified?<p>[1]: <i>If there&#x27;s someone with the appropriate legal background, please correct me if I&#x27;m wrong.</i>

Could also be easily a case of being overly qualified of them not even taking the application seriously because if some one sent a CV that looks like his to any entry level tech support &#x2F; sales support position they would most likely assume it&#x27;s a gag.<p>Overall hiring overqualified people is a problem, they might never be happy and they can easily undermine the structure of a company even unintentionally.<p>This is like hiring some one like Wozniak to do entry level programming at a company hell undermine everyone from the team leader upto the CTO just for being who he is.

This reminds me of the outrage when Uber kicked Sebastian Thrun off its platform when he worked as an Uber driver offering people rides in his Model S (founder of Google X, inventor of the modern &quot;self-driving&quot; car).<p>I think all you have to do is say the legendary engineer is &quot;over-qualified&quot; for this position -- I mean, you can&#x27;t jump to age-ist conclusions right away when Michael Jordan applies to play high school basketball.

Call this an unfair generalization if you must, but old people are no good at everything.<p>- Moe from &quot;The Simpsons&quot;

Does age discrimination even uphold for remote work?

so, they didn&#x27;t bother checking his cv?