Willpower and cognitive processing draw from the same pool of resources (2013)

151 点作者 vharish超过 8 年前

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mrob超过 8 年前

"Willpower and cognitive processing draw from the same pool of resources."This is the Ego Depletion hypothesis. When the article was written in 2013 it seemed very likely to be true. In 2016 we're now aware of serious problems in many psychology studies, and while it's not definitely proven false, it's failed to replicate in enough studies that there's major doubt about it being a real effect.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_depletion#Reproducibility_controversy_and_conflicting_meta_analyses" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_depletion#Reproducibility_...</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis</a>

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throwanem超过 8 年前

It's true that ego depletion has a question mark over it these days.It's also true that Sierra's conclusion has value:> ...I've created interactive marketing games, gamified sites (before it was called that), and dozens of other projects carefully, artfully, scientifically designed to slurp (gulp) cognitive resources for... very little that was "worth it". Did people willingly choose to engage with them? Of course. And by "of course" I mean, not really, no. Not according to psychology, neuroscience, and behavioral economics research of the past 50 years. They were nudged/seduced/tricked. And I was pretty good at it. I am so very, very sorry.> My goal for Serious Pony is to help all of us take better care of our users. Not just while they are interacting with our app, site, product, but after. Not just because they are our users, but because they are people....nah, it'll never catch on. Where's the value prop here?

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vinceguidry超过 8 年前

I started a new job a few months ago. For the first month or so I was coming home really tired. I needed a half-hour or so nap before I could leave my house after I got home. I eventually worked out that I was stressing myself out.So I started going into work with the express purpose of caring less. If I couldn't do a thing, I would give myself permission to relax, take a break, or ask for help.The problem was instantly solved. Like, a total night and day difference in how I felt after work. I got better at getting things done, too.

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astrange超过 8 年前

This article is about ego depletion theory, which is a little less popular these days:<a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2016/07/31/end-of-ego-depletion/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2016/07/31/en...</a>Even if it is true, it's also using the original claims about glucose depletion, which would probably mean you were already addicted to sugar. Try getting a water drinking habit instead?

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InternetPerson超过 8 年前

Is "ego depletion" the only explanation for the experiment? How do the researchers rule out other explanations?Maybe people choose the cake because they think, "Phew! I did something difficult! I deserve some cake!" And the people who only memorized two numbers think, "Well, I didn't do anything that warrants cake. I'll just take the salad."I don't mean to propose this as an alternate explanation -- it just seems like there could be a million explanations for why people are more likely to choose the cake. (But maybe the researchers found ways to rule them out?)Another random question -- have people replicated this experiment? Just curious.

ramblenode超过 8 年前

FYI, this is based on the "ego depletion" theory, which has been criticized. An excellent lay overview of this debate: <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/cover_story/2016/03/ego_depletion_an_influential_theory_in_psychology_may_have_just_been_debunked.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/cover_story...</a>

pbhjpbhj超过 8 年前

>”You know where this goes: the dogs that had to sit — exercising self-control — gave up on the puzzle much earlier than the dogs that were just hanging out in their crate.The dogs that were NOT burning cognitive resources being obedient had more determination and mental/emotional energy for solving the puzzle. Think about that next time you ask Sparky to be patient. His cognitive resources are easily-depleted too." //I'd have thought a better hypothesis was that the dog that it's free has other options for how to spend their time. The incarcerated dog doesn't have anything else to do. So whilst in both cases they maybe realise they can't get the treat - evil humans - the dog in the cage only has alternatives asking the lines of 'lick scrotum'.If you lock me in a cage and give me a Rubic cube then I'm not going to be able to go down the pub instead.

YeGoblynQueenne超过 8 年前

>> Willpower and cognitive processing draw from the same pool of resources.Or, the people who were randomly assigned to the two-digit memorisation group just happened to prefer fruit over cake.Drawing any kind of conclusion about "willpower" (whatever that is) from the fact that some people chose cake and some chose fruit is so far fetched that it makes the headline sound comical.

orky56超过 8 年前

I believe passion/purpose/etc. is what allows us to forgo the limited resources of cognition/executive function. If we can convince ourselves that we actually want to do something, the fatigue of decision making becomes drastically reduced and we can do things we don't even want to.

technobabble超过 8 年前

Wouldn't this study show that we as humans are not multitaskers? To go with the example, what would happen if the people were given a longer break in between the memorization task and choosing the reward?

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rrecuero超过 8 年前

If you want to read more about it, David Kahneman talks about the cake experiment in 'Thinking fast and slow'. His findings can be summarized as Ego depletion.

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aaronbrethorst超过 8 年前

(2013)damn, I was hoping that Kathy Sierra was back.

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