I sort of feel that whoever made this site should have read an article somewhere entitled The Six Dumbest Ideas in Web Design.<p>Also, amusing quip 'if "Penetrate and Patch" was effective, we would have run out of security bugs in Internet Explorer by now.' although I guess the real case would be the less pithy if "Penetrate and Patch" was effective, we would have run out of security bugs in Internet Explorer 6 by now.'<p>also if Penetrate and Patch could be replaced by someone just writing a browser that was not hackable because it was not supposed to be hackable which browser is that?<p>I mean I understand that a system hardened by trial and error is not as enticing as a system made hard from the start, without holes, but I guess there is very few of these to be found and probably what is best is a system that has been tried to be made as hard as the programmers could from the beginning and then tested for holes after that.<p>I mean listing penetrate and patch as a dumb idea sounds like one of those jokes - The only thing stupider than using Penetrate and Patch to fix security holes is not using it at all. Probably I exaggerate there but (given the number of companies that don't even do that) I don't think I exaggerate by much.<p>On Edit: I mean I sure use the phrase I mean a lot. Sorry about that, have some long running conflicts at work that are boiling over right now. Probably shouldn't comment on articles, but I do it to take my mind off things.