How much more flapping there needs to be? Chef, Puppet, Ansible, Salt, Vagrant, Docker, CoreOS, runC, Kubernetes, OpenStack, the list goes on and on and on. People are going way, waaayyy out of their way just so they wouldn't learn shell programmimg and how to build all this automation with OS packages. Is learning N amounts of discrete orchestration really easier and simpler than writing shell scripts and encapsulating them in OS packaging? Seriously?!?<p>Enough with the flapping and discrete solutions already!!!