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Ask HN: No mechanical escape key in new Macbook Pros?

20 点作者 mattnedrich超过 8 年前
I came across this photo (potential casing for new MBP): http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.macrumors.com&#x2F;article-new&#x2F;2016&#x2F;05&#x2F;macbook_pro_2016_case_top.jpg<p>Notice the missing top row of function keys. People have speculated that this top row may be replaced by an OLED touch screen.<p>Comparing the above photo to the Macbook keyboard, it would seem that the top row includes the escape key: http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.macrumors.com&#x2F;article-new&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;retinamacbookkeyboard-800x484.jpg<p>If this is the case, any software developer that uses the escape key a lot may not be very happy.

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weinzierl超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m in the market for the new MacBok Pro and the OLED row makes me excited, but as a Vim user the lack of an physical escape key would be problem for me.<p>I have Caps Lock mapped to Ctrl and I&#x27;m glad that MacOS provides this option out of the box, but Caps Lock as Esc is not an option for me. I hope there will be an out of the box way to map Escape to something sensible. I&#x27;d trade ~ for Esc anytime, as long as ~ and ` are accessible via the OLED strip.
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gamedna超过 8 年前
Back when the iPad was released, I ran a 6 month experiment to see if I could live as a developer using only the iPad and the cloud. My initial findings were quite positive, and the first few weeks were exciting and new.<p>As time progressed, task switching and copy&#x2F;paste were obvious shortcomings due to limitations with iOS, but the experience was mostly bearable but not awful.<p>Towards the end it became unbearable as the escape key was so engrossed with all things unix&#x2F;linux that i gave up a month early.<p>If the escape key is actually vanishing, I am completely confused. macOS is a unix derivative and apple has a boatload of developers. Why would they want to alienate us?
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stevep001超过 8 年前
I ended up with a ThinkPad X1 Carbon gen 2 -- it has a five row physical keyboard, with the top row as a virtual keyboard.<p>It was constantly registering touches on the top row when I didn&#x27;t want them. With a laptop, I commonly rest my hand on the keyboard and touch -- but don&#x27;t depress -- keys.<p>Today it&#x27;s only used in a desktop configuration with an external keyboard.<p>I&#x27;m not the only one who felt this way -- see, for example, this Ars review of the gen 3, which said of the gen 2 keyboard:<p>&quot;...the keyboard shed its top row of function keys, replacing them with a software-controlled touchable strip, and used a peculiar arrangement for buttons including home, insert, backspace, and delete. The result wasn&#x27;t better; it was awkward.&quot;<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;gadgets&#x2F;2015&#x2F;02&#x2F;thinkpad-x1-carbon-review-a-fine-heir-to-the-thinkpad-name&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;gadgets&#x2F;2015&#x2F;02&#x2F;thinkpad-x1-carbon-re...</a>
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busterarm超过 8 年前
I&#x27;ve been using an external keyboard (Realforce 87U at work. A 104 w&#x2F; Cherry Blues at home).<p>Other than the coffee-shop crowd, how many of you would say you&#x27;re exclusively a laptop-keyboard user? Not a dig, just wondering.<p>If Apple offered an iPad Pro, running OSX with USB ports (or a thunderbolt port usb hub) for a physical keyboard, I would switch over in a heartbeat.
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1_2__3超过 8 年前
It&#x27;s really hard not to see this as just a continuous and perpetual dumbing-down by Apple of all its products, to the point of uselessness for essentially anyone who isn&#x27;t an 80 year old grandmother who&#x27;s never used a computer before and needs to use skype.
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snowwrestler超过 8 年前
Apple could easily persist an ESC virtual button in the same spot. Or provide a user setting to do so.
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taurath超过 8 年前
I think they&#x27;ll just replace the tilde key with the escape key if the photo is a new MBP.<p>I press escape OFTEN, but tildes rarely. For the most part its to get into consoles in games or other dev functions - I could see myself losing it and not being too sad.
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a-no-n超过 8 年前
If there&#x27;s no hackable non-Retina-like model with user-upgradable to 16 GiB of memory and dual SSDs, the MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012) MD101LL&#x2F;A will be the last MBP I buy. Overpriced, soldered-on memory is BS.
meidan超过 8 年前
I use VIM. I will not be upgrading to the newest apple products. I think I&#x27;ll phase them out instead.
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sboselli超过 8 年前
What about the up and down arrows? There&#x27;s only key there in your first image..
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stuaxo超过 8 年前
Hm, how long until there are Linux drivers for this ?