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When world leaders thought you shouldn't need passports or visas

110 点作者 infodroid超过 8 年前

10 条评论

wtbob超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m reminded of this famous piece by A.J.P. Taylor:<p>&#x27;Until August 1914 a sensible, law-abiding Englishman could pass through life and hardly notice the existence of the state, beyond the post office and the policeman. He could live where he liked and as he liked. He had no official number or identity card. He could travel abroad or leave his country for ever without a passport or any sort of official permission. He could exchange his money for any other currency without restriction or limit. He could buy goods from any country in the world on the same terms as he bought goods at home. For that matter, a foreigner could spend his life in this country without permit and without informing the police.&#x27;<p>It&#x27;s hard to believe how much we&#x27;ve given up.
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ChicagoBoy11超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m appalled at how many self-described liberals I know who consider themselves to be guardians of civil liberties not bat an eye to these restrictions. The matter of fact is that all the restrictions we put in place with respect to the free movement of peoples -- and the accompanying restrictions around employment, leisure, etc. -- are single-handedly the single biggest breach of human rights in the world. It is absolutely inexcusable that any person should &quot;defend&quot; any policy short of complete and total freedom of movement. I think this is the one thing that I believe in most strongly in all of my life -- I am confident that in the future -- perhaps many, many centuries from now -- we will look at these things with the same eyes with which we look at slavery in the past.
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J-dawg超过 8 年前
The UK has obviously seen a lot of debate about immigration recently, around the Brexit referendum. I&#x27;ve often felt like non-EU immigration was the elephant in the room during all this.<p>&#x27;Leave&#x27; voters have often been portrayed as racist bigots by liberal &#x27;Remain&#x27; voters. (I&#x27;m one of the latter, and I&#x27;ve been guilty of this myself at times).<p>But if we extend the same logic to the whole world, isn&#x27;t the EU basically a racist organisation? Why should a French, German or Romanian arbitrarily have special rights to enter my country, while an Indian, Mexican or Nigerian is subjected to ever harsher visa rules?<p>I don&#x27;t know the answer, but I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s possible to make the liberal case for EU freedom of movement without being something of a hypocrite. And I say this as a (confused) Remain voter.<p>EDIT: Before anyone says, I know there is more to the EU debate than just immigration, and that not all Remainers are liberal&#x2F;lefty, just as Leavers are not all right wing. But there&#x27;s no denying that immigration was the main issue on many (most?) voters minds.
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the_mitsuhiko超过 8 年前
Passports and citizenship in many ways are the most unfair thing in the world as your place of birth influences what you can do in life.<p>For many of us the idea of having a bad passport is only theoretical in nature but it decides many things in life for others and sets stupid arbitrary ceilings that should not exist.
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jstanley超过 8 年前
A large majority of people view me as a crackpot when I say passports should be abolished, and free men ought to be able to travel the planet freely.<p>It never occurred to me that the world was like this as recently as 100 years ago!
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insickness超过 8 年前
This discussion is synonymous with whether countries should even have borders. If borders aren&#x27;t policed, they may as well not even exist.<p>It would be great if all people were kind and caring, if there were no corruption, war, terrorism, religious fanaticism, crime or discrepancies in standards of living. But we&#x27;ve seen over and over that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The problematic migrant situation in Europe is a good example of that.
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danidiaz超过 8 年前
In his book &quot;Abroad: British Literary Traveling between the Wars&quot; [1] historian Paul Fussell devotes a whole chapter to &quot;The Passport Nuisance&quot;:<p>&gt; As a fixture of the european scene since 1915, the passport now seems so natural that one forgets the shock and scandal it once occasioned. Robert Byron is one who treated his with a due contempt. In the space asking about &quot;Any special peculiarities,&quot; he entered &quot;Of Melancholy appearance,&quot; and in the square reserved for a photograph of bearer&#x27;s wife he drew a ludicrous cartoon, &quot;resulting,&quot; Anthory Powell recalls, &quot;in the document being withdrawn.&quot;<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;154471.Abroad" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;154471.Abroad</a>
zwieback超过 8 年前
When I read Dickens I&#x27;m always surprised how citizens could get locked out of their own city walls at night or would bribe the watchman to &quot;forget&quot; that they&#x27;ve seen the villain or hero pass the gate.<p>I think in the past there were much more restrictive laws in place at times, other times maybe more lax.
wodenokoto超过 8 年前
<p><pre><code> &gt;But delegates ultimately decided that a return to a &gt;passport-free world could only happen alongside a return to &gt;the global conditions that prevailed before the start of &gt;the first world war. </code></pre> I wish the article was more detailed about what was&#x2F;is considered changed in the global condition.
Havoc超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m fine with the controls part, but can&#x27;t we at least get rid of the paper documents? People just lose them anyway.<p>Surely a combination of say retina + finger + voice etc would provide more security than could ever be needed...
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