See also:<p>"Apple's response to the WoSign incidents" <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12617659" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12617659</a> (1 day ago, 38 comments)<p>"WoSign and StartCom: Mozilla’s proposed conclusion" <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12582534" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12582534</a> (5 days ago, 247 comments)