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Introducing Marketplace: Buy and Sell with Your Local Community

273 点作者 jpdlla超过 8 年前

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vlucas超过 8 年前
Good for Facebook.<p>My wife has been buying and selling things on individual Facebook groups for years before this official marketplace.<p>Selling on Facebook is hands down a vastly better experience than selling things on Craigslist in every way - especially if you live in a market that is too small for a designated Craigslist area.<p>Our real world experience:<p>1) Hyperlocal - Our city of 40k-50k is 40 miles from the nearest Craigslist area (OKC). Facebook groups and now the marketplace ensures we don&#x27;t have to drive 30 minutes or more to meet someone. Most people buy things that are either very close to them (i.e. already in the same city), or are more willing to drive to where you are.<p>2) Related to (1) - Since it is more local (we usually meet at a Walgreens or supermarket parking lot that is only a few blocks away), we can easily sell more items that are lower in value (like kids clothing, etc.). This is something that just isn&#x27;t worth the hassle on Craigslist.<p>3) Way fewer scammers and spammers since you have to use your real name.<p>4) You know who you are meeting and what they look like (again - real name, single account requirement).<p>5) Built-in messaging allows you an easier way to communicate meeting details privately without having to give your phone number or email address.<p>6) You can easily block and report people who are problematic and they will never see your posts or be able to buy your stuff or message you again.<p>In short, Facebook has allowed us to sell a lot of things on a much more regular basis than Craigslist ever would, with much less hassle and spam&#x2F;scammers.
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cheeze超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m happy they are introducing it, but IMO the execution has been quite poor. Some random complaints as someone who uses it:<p>They added a tab to the facebook app that you can&#x27;t remove. It&#x27;s inconveniently placed between two tabs that most people <i>do</i> care about (newsfeed and notifications). Furthermore, I randomly get a red number over the marketplace, similar to the number shown for notifications. This is very frustrating to me and it never seems to go away. I&#x27;ve mistaken this little notification bubble for a legitimate notification multiple times, when it was actually just a new post in the marketplace that I don&#x27;t care about.<p>The &#x27;newsfeed&#x27; of marketplace is littered with complete crap. 50+% of it is fake shoes, fake purses, used womens clothing, and people looking to trade their piece of garbage cars for another one (sorry, I don&#x27;t want to trade for your civic that is worth &lt;1k)<p>Selling something was a pretty poor experience for me. I got a ton of messages from people who had no interest in what I was selling, and instead spammed me like crazy with stuff I didn&#x27;t care about at all. For me this was more excusable on a platform like craigslist because it is easy enough to filter email, but there is no real way to filter FB messages. Now I have personal messages and spammers mixed together.<p>Overall I&#x27;m happy to see this become a thing, but IMO execution has been poor. Well, annoying at the least, but I assume that is their goal. Much better than the terrible interface of the buy&#x2F;sell groups, especially with how broken Facebooks group search is (I often can&#x27;t find posts that were posted within the past month or so in a group. I&#x27;m searching correct terms, they just aren&#x27;t indexed.)<p>I am part of a bunch of secondary beer market groups (raffles and straight up sales) on Facebook, and it&#x27;s a pretty terrible platform, but it has the user base :(
eknight15超过 8 年前
Marketplace has been around since 2007, I&#x27;m surprised it&#x27;s taken this long to &quot;introduce&quot;: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;newsroom.fb.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2008&#x2F;12&#x2F;facebook-chooses-oodle-to-power-its-marketplace-application&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;newsroom.fb.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2008&#x2F;12&#x2F;facebook-chooses-oodle-t...</a>
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gnicholas超过 8 年前
I used to buy&#x2F;sell on Craigslist a lot but now use NextDoor (neighborhood-based, address-verified social network). I never had any safety issues with CL, but ND definitely feels safer&#x2F;friendlier. Most of the people I meet are local housewives getting rid of stuff. There tends to be less haggling, and because it&#x27;s neighborhood&#x2F;town based, you don&#x27;t have to drive as far to meet (huge plus). I think the reason that people behave better (e.g., don&#x27;t lowball) is because they know they&#x27;ll see you in discussion forums on the network, and it&#x27;s not worth pissing someone off and getting a bad reputation.<p>I&#x27;ll try out FB&#x27;s new feature, but ND sets the bar pretty high.
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pbnjay超过 8 年前
I sold my old motorcycle in 2009 using FB Marketplace. Half the inquiries I got were from scammers, even then... Have they improved anything in that regard? I especially don&#x27;t want people spamming my Facebook messages now that they&#x27;re more intrusive.
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toomanybeersies超过 8 年前
I&#x27;ve had marketplace on my phone for the past few months. I guess New Zealand was the test market for it.<p>Personally, I don&#x27;t use it. Facebook provides no protection for either buyer or seller, which is something that Ebay (or Trademe [0] in the case of NZ) offer. I&#x27;m constantly seeing people on the local buy&#x2F;sell&#x2F;exchange groups complaining about buying stolen phones, or people failing to send items, or various other things.<p>It&#x27;s not difficult to make a fake account. Although it does say how long the person has been a Facebook member on the listings.<p>I just looked on my phone, and the first thing I see for sale is synthetic marijuana. This doesn&#x27;t bode well.<p>The user experience is pretty poor too. For a test, I wanted to see if I could find a couch. The closest I could filter to was Furniture. I then searched for Couch, which then removed the filter, so I added the filter back on. Instead of seeing a bunch of couches, half the things for sale were tables and beds.<p>I&#x27;m not a fan of the image-only listings either. I&#x27;d prefer to see a title with an image when searching. A price would be useful too. Instead I get a bunch of crappy cellphone pictures of peoples old shit.<p>Then there&#x27;s the issue for me that you aren&#x27;t allowed to buy and sell firearms through Facebook, despite the fact that it&#x27;s perfectly legal in New Zealand, and Trademe allows you to do it.<p>I can say that I will stick to using Trademe.<p>[0]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.trademe.co.nz&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.trademe.co.nz&#x2F;</a>
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muse900超过 8 年前
I don&#x27;t know if its just me, judging by the ad&#x27;s that facebook shows me 70% of them are not legit. Fake clothes, fake watches, scam companies etc. How can I trust a service that will be not regulated at all, I mean its a nice idea, although I&#x27;d be very careful on what am looking in there. (At least ebay is a bit more regulated I&#x27;d say)
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ade2超过 8 年前
I think a lot of the success from facebook buy&#x2F;sell groups is that the items will actually show up in people&#x27;s newsfeeds once they have joined a regional&#x2F;topic group for trading. This probably raises awareness of second hand items available in general. If the marketplace is going to be a separate part of facebook, It might not be as engaging.
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deedubaya超过 8 年前
I live in a geographically isolated area which is small enough to not get it&#x27;s own Criagslist area, but big enough that there is a lot of 2nd hand selling and buying. This almost exclusively happens through a FB group. It seems like this is a good natural move for FB.
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eatbitseveryday超过 8 年前
More services means more data for them to exploit. Weak on privacy guarantees = whatever services they offer are heavily mined for your data.<p>When it comes to sales, craigslist is useful because it allows you to remain anonymous. With FB, I seem to be exposing exactly who I am, where I live, what I have for sale. In places with high crime rates, this opens me up to becoming a victim, as perps can search this information, see my name (maybe search online for more details), etc. Craigslist has even worked with police departments to set up safe areas[0] for people to exchange items. Will FB prioritize these important aspects?<p>I just recently saw an advertisement for their rural internet initiative, launching 3kW large-wingspan aircraft over remote areas to transmit network signals[1]. On the surface it is a useful goal - to connect more people - but ultimately, FB wants to increase its membership, and enrich its supply of data collected by people. Do we really prioritize having people send likes on FB from their shantytowns[2] instead of helping them improve their own villages -- food, sanity[3], customs, etc.?<p>From [2]:<p>&gt; Mr. Kohli, 17, said he spends about four hours a day on the Internet and uses an Express Wi-Fi plan to supplement his Airtel data plan.<p>&gt; Facebook has no desire to enter directly into the Internet service business.<p>&gt; An important cog in the system is the merchant in each village that sells the service. Facebook and AirJaldi decided that there should be just one authorized seller per village to give that person a strong incentive to sell as many subscriptions as possible.<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;27&#x2F;395586863&#x2F;police-departments-open-up-safe-lots-for-craigslist-transactions" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;27&#x2F;395586863&#x2F;police-departments-o...</a><p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2016-08-31&#x2F;facebook-to-start-africa-satellite-this-week-to-find-rural-users" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2016-08-31&#x2F;facebook-t...</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bits.blogs.nytimes.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;25&#x2F;facebook-strives-to-bring-cheap-wi-fi-to-rural-india-2&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bits.blogs.nytimes.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;25&#x2F;facebook-strives-to...</a><p>[3] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ted.com&#x2F;talks&#x2F;joe_madiath_better_toilets_better_life" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ted.com&#x2F;talks&#x2F;joe_madiath_better_toilets_better_l...</a>
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subpixel超过 8 年前
Semi-related: just last night I learned from a waitress that there is a thriving underground food marketplace on Facebook. Basically, if you live in a city with a large ethnic population, and you search in native languages, you can find housewives and hustlers selling lots of delicious looking things, sometimes offering delivery.<p>I wonder what effect the marketplace will have on black market biryani.
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ideonexus超过 8 年前
I was debating with a friend recently whether offerup.com or letgo.com would win this snap-and-post marketplace battle. I guess fb just rendered that discussion obsolete.
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ideonexus超过 8 年前
Possibly a stupid question, but is there a way to access this without installing the app? I can&#x27;t find any way to access it through a browser.
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scrumper超过 8 年前
Neztdoor is just starting to try to monetize their network now. Would not be hugely surprised if Facebook ended up buying it.
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bjacobel超过 8 年前
Facebook&#x27;s come under a lot of heat for refusing to moderate the buying and selling of firearms in Groups, often in violation of local laws[1]. Hopefully their moderation standards will be higher on Marketplace.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@monteiro&#x2F;this-article-first-appeared-in-boing-boing-86c8e7b17e62#.s8hs0xkdr" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@monteiro&#x2F;this-article-first-appeared-in-...</a>
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PostOnce超过 8 年前
I wonder how long until they start charging a commission, or a listing fee, or whatever.
1474295912超过 8 年前
I am co-moderator of a Donate your unused stuff group on FB. The amount of spam users get is unbelievable, and we&#x27;ve to weed out responses like every few hours. But the most disturbing fact is the harassment the women get on the group. As soon as some woman posts something, she&#x27;s almost guaranteed to get nasty messages with disturbing content. And these are from verified users who&#x27;ve active FB profiles.<p>Unless FB weeds out the spammers and the harassing, this is just another way to make quick bucks for FB.
tyfon超过 8 年前
I wonder how they will compete with local sites. In Sweden most people I know use blocket.se and in Norway they use finn.no and I guess most countries&#x2F;locales have their own sites like this.
alpb超过 8 年前
Off-topic: Am I the only one to notice newsroom.fb.com uses WordPress?
erikb超过 8 年前
Now they finally have some kind of business model! Congrats FB!
edpichler超过 8 年前
The challenge here, for Facebook team, is to make this tool great at the same time it does not disturb users. I wouldn&#x27;t like too see photos of old stuff being sell on my timeline.<p>Usually, when a software evolve trying to do everything, at the end it does do nothing well. Let&#x27;s see what&#x27;ll happen here.
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pmontra超过 8 年前
Somewhat reminiscent of this Line &#x2F; Instagram combo <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techinasia.com&#x2F;line-instagram-ecommerce-thailand" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techinasia.com&#x2F;line-instagram-ecommerce-thailand</a> all together in a single app.
franze超过 8 年前
so basically a shpock (SHop in your POCKet) <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.shpock.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.shpock.com</a> clone - around since 2012, hugely successful in german speaking markets (10M+ Downloads).<p>looks pretty much the same, fb is blue-ish, shpock green-ish. Comparison pic: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net&#x2F;t31.0-8&#x2F;14524544_10154740306447867_3976155801283276031_o.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net&#x2F;t31.0-8&#x2F;14524544_101547...</a>
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ddorian43超过 8 年前
Everything that keeps ~public information after a login-form MUST die!
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dgudkov超过 8 年前
That&#x27;s where ads would become way more relevant.
jprince超过 8 年前
...and there goes OfferUp. My wife loves that app.
hcrisp超过 8 年前
How does it compare to Varage Sale?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.varagesale.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.varagesale.com&#x2F;</a>
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ch4s3超过 8 年前
Didn&#x27;t they try this a few years ago?
M_Grey超过 8 年前
I can&#x27;t Imagine a platform I&#x27;d trust less than anything related to facebook.
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devsatish超过 8 年前
Facebook has Marketplace concept since many years.. But this feature looks like competition for apps like Close5 and LetGo. Which have been very popular recently.
maxaf超过 8 年前
How&#x27;s this better than Craigslist?
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Nursie超过 8 年前
Erm... Gumtree?<p>It sounds a lot like that, only tied to facebook, which makes it worse.
fiatjaf超过 8 年前
Stop using Facebook now or you&#x27;ll regret later.
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tdkl超过 8 年前
Another case of &quot;showing every shit available in an closed walled app&quot; copying the Chinese social apps formula.<p>I can understand why Chinese apps did what they did, because of the isolation from the international services and being more accessible via mobile devices to the majority. But Facebook is an attack on the Internet.<p>#fuckfacebook
justinzollars超过 8 年前
Looks cool!
wut42超过 8 年前
Sounds like Munity is launching SwapMeet! cool!
sharemywin超过 8 年前
this is kind of like &quot;letgo&quot;. but if they don&#x27;t commit to it, it will go know where.