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McMansion Hell: The Devil Is in the Details

52 点作者 misnamed超过 8 年前

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adultSwim超过 8 年前
Previous discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12286724" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12286724</a><p>Origin blog post&#x2F;series the 99% invisible post is on: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcmansionhell.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;148605513816&#x2F;mcmansions-101-what-makes-a-mcmansion-bad" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcmansionhell.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;148605513816&#x2F;mcmansions-10...</a>
harryh超过 8 年前
On one hand I&#x27;m really sympathetic to the criticisms from this blog.<p>On the other hand people want big houses and they have a limited budget. They can&#x27;t afford a real mansion, so this is what they get instead. Is it really so wrong for people to want a lot of space?<p>I wish there was more in this blog about how to do it right other than &quot;have enough money for a proper mansion&quot; or &quot;you should have a smaller living space.&quot;
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sotojuan超过 8 年前
As someone who lived in upper middle class Texas suburbia, I&#x27;m pretty desensitized to &quot;McMansions&quot;.<p>Aside from older houses (usually near the city center, small, and can be expensive) or custom-designed houses (very expensive), there&#x27;s not much choice if you actually care about this stuff. Even the new apartment&#x2F;townhome complexes could be considered &quot;McApartments&quot;.
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intrasight超过 8 年前
I believe the commenters so far have failed to address the main point: the devil is in the details. And everyone knows why the details suck in this category of McMansion: they are spec houses designed by beancounters. They represent the aggregate current view of what would have maximum curb appeal. That is the only design criteria for such houses.
basseq超过 8 年前
This is the equivalent of graphic designers presenting alternate proposals for boarding passes and Craigslist. They&#x27;re not wrong, and for those with a specific sort of sensibility, the &quot;imperfections&quot; can be grating, but for 99% of the population, they don&#x27;t even <i>notice</i> and it works just fine.
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reflexive超过 8 年前
This reads like old-$ &quot;highbrow&quot; East-coast hate for the nouveau riche. What is the alternative for someone who wants to build a house for a large family while spending 6 (or low 7) figures, as opposed someone with Larry Ellison money and Ivy League cultivated tastes?<p>&quot;Cheap materials&quot; - that&#x27;s valid, but what is the cost difference for &quot;real Louis XIV marble fireplace&quot; as opposed to &quot;imitation&quot;? Why build something to last 500 years when your children may not even want it?
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blhack超过 8 年前
I would happily live in any of these houses.
clock_tower超过 8 年前
Is it possible to buy good craftsmanship these days? I&#x27;m asking this in all earnest, not to make a rhetorical point; does anyone know of businesses in the US today that can build a house that will endure like a 1920s Craftsman?<p>If so, who are they, and where do they operate -- what businesses should I contact?
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codingdave超过 8 年前
Even if we grant all these points as correct, not everyone shares the same aesthetic sense as professional architects. As long as you like your own home, it really doesn&#x27;t matter what other people think of it.<p>And I find the last bit of the article truly scary -- bragging over fan mail sent to the site about how this type of critique is letting people verbalize and validate their own instinctive hate for their neighbor&#x27;s design choices. Is that really a net positive to our society? To use critique as a mechanism to feed negativity between neighbors?
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Abundnce10超过 8 年前
This is a little off topic but does anyone know of any resources for architecting&#x2F;designing your own house. Specifically, I think it&#x27;d be worthwhile to learn from the layouts of other houses. I&#x27;d also love to hear about how people are wiring up their houses (fiber, audio, etc).
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wott超过 8 年前
European here. Are there really people who live in those er... things, or are they only used to shoot porn flicks?<p>On a more serious note, if they want to display different styles, instead of packing them together, why don&#x27;t they build 2 or 3 smaller buildings?
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ktRolster超过 8 年前
It&#x27;s a little harsh. Not everyone can afford a top-quality architect.<p>And mixing styles (the main criticism of this article) is not always a bad thing: Chartres Cathedral is considered a masterpiece, despite it&#x27;s weird mixed spires.
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jayess超过 8 年前
Don&#x27;t like it? Then don&#x27;t buy one.
OrwellianChild超过 8 年前
For those lacking the visual aids to understand what a grandiose home vs. a McMansion looks like, the blog this is based on has a good visual explainer here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcmansionhell.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;151896249151&#x2F;the-mcmansion-scale-explained" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcmansionhell.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;151896249151&#x2F;the-mcmansion...</a>