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Phil Schiller Inital Response to MBP Criticism

37 点作者 dcgoss超过 8 年前

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bcheung超过 8 年前
It doesn&#x27;t seem like there is even an understanding of the criticism based on his response in the article.<p>Let me spell it out explicitly:<p>The criticism is that this is a Pro machine. Pro people care about performance and features.<p>The decision to optimize for thinner and lighter at the expense of other useful features is the criticism. The weight and size were fine before. I don&#x27;t care. I&#x27;d be fine with bigger and heavier too. All I care is that it fits in a normal size backpack &#x2F; travel case.<p>As a photographer I would need have an SD card reader now and the vast majority don&#x27;t come in USB-C. If I already had a reader I would now need a dongle to convert it. That&#x27;s more hassle and more things to lug around. I already need to carry several bags worth of studio gear, the less I need to carry the better.<p>In terms of video, there really isn&#x27;t any compelling reason to upgrade until Kaby Lake is out. The increased 4K encoding and decoding is quite significant. It would have been nice to have the MBP come out earlier, that way another MBP could be released shortly after the Kaby Lake release. If it takes another 1.5 years before another MBP then it would be really far behind the best possible hardware.<p>In short, people who buy the MBP want a Pro laptop, not the Air.<p>Honestly, based on what I&#x27;m seeing right now, professional software developers, photographers, and videographers seem to be ignored.<p>I switched to Mac when Apple started using Intel. Based on what I&#x27;m seeing now, I&#x27;m exploring switching back to Windows.<p>If I&#x27;m not your target market anymore, so be it. I can appreciate the business reasons to concentrate on making money. But don&#x27;t delude yourself into thinking you&#x27;re serving Pro or creative users anymore.
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chrisbennet超过 8 年前
I think Apple design has an anorexia thing going on. They are making things thin for thinness sake.<p>If Apple made dedicated &quot;pro&quot; cameras I think they would make them so small you couldn&#x27;t hold them without your finger getting in the way of the lens and ditch the memory card in favor of wifi &quot;because it&#x27;s the future&quot;.<p>(Please resist the urge to point out that pro photographers sometimes use iPhones cameras.)
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dovdov超过 8 年前
&quot;Is it inconsistent to keep the 3.5mm headphone jack as it’s no longer on the latest iPhone?<p>Not at all. These are pro machines.<p>The new Pros have no SD card slot for a camera memory card. Why not?<p>you can use a physical adaptor if you want&quot;<p>I mean most audio pros were using external soundcards since like forever, however imaging pros are now f&#x27;d in the a with their SD cards and USB-A cables. Sure this can be addressed with adaptors easily, but they are the ones who travel the most, and need the least number of dongles.<p>Schiller&#x27;s (Apple&#x27;s) argument is super weak.<p>They have made the best &quot;pretend-a-pro at Starbucks&quot; machine.<p>Now with emoji bar!
SkyMarshal超过 8 年前
<i>&quot;It’s part of our thinking about where to take the notebook next. Others are trying to turn the notebook into the tablet. The new MacBook Pro is a product that celebrates that it is a notebook, this shape that has been with us for the last 25 years is probably going to be with us for another 25 years because there’s something eternal about the basic notebook form factor.&quot;</i><p>This is interesting. I would hope that sometime before 25yrs from now we have reliable enough voice recognition to get rid of the physical keyboard, good enough VR&#x2F;AR to make a 3D UI (along with a popup VR keyboard for the occasional word that needs to be manually typed out or for when working in libraries). House it all in a pair of AR glasses attached to a battery&#x2F;CPU&#x2F;RAM&#x2F;SDD in a backpack (replacing the laptop in the backpack of today). Seems something like that should be the holy grail of personal computing, achievable within 10-20yrs, and really Apple&#x27;s wheelhouse more than any other.
grzm超过 8 年前
Duplicate: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12855252" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12855252</a><p>Actual title: Apple’s Philip Schiller talks computers, touchscreens and voice on the new MacBook Pro<p>(shortened to &quot;Phil Schiller Discusses the new MacBook Pro&quot; in first post)
crcastle超过 8 年前
&quot;But many users have setups with studio monitors, amps, and other pro audio gear that do not have wireless solutions and need the 3.5mm jack.&quot;<p>Any user with &quot;studio monitors, amps, and other pro audio gear&quot; is not using the 3.5mm jack. I dabble in music production (i.e. I&#x27;m very much a beginner) and I use an USB audio interface. The built-in DAC, while better than most PC&#x27;s, is not very good.<p>How does Schiller even pretend that this is a valid justification for the 3.5mm audio jack on the Mac but not on the iPhone?
maxxxxx超过 8 年前
I thought thinner and lighter is for the MacBook Air. I would much prefer a slightly thicker device with more power. The 16 GB restriction makes no sense either.
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wodenokoto超过 8 年前
I made a note of the minijack thing.<p>Are there any wireless music protocols that allows for delay-less playing of audio? My bluetooth speaker has about half a second, maybe one second delay. Airplay has a delay as well. I don&#x27;t know about the new airpots though.<p>I think Apple might see their notebooks and iPads as devices people will watch movies on somewhat seriously, and therefore will need a delay-less way of listening.
mohsinr超过 8 年前
Quote from the article:<p>And we are proud to tell you that so far our online store has had more orders for the new MacBook Pro than any other pro notebook before.
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