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Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

577 点作者 iamdeedubs超过 8 年前

53 条评论

grownseed超过 8 年前
A few points I think are relevant:<p>- I find leaving your country only because you didn&#x27;t vote for the winner is rather cowardly, you can still do something about it, we&#x27;re not quite talking systemic harassment yet...<p>- as a friend of mine pointed out, Canada is not a consolation prize for disgruntled americans, it&#x27;s a real country, with its own real people and its own real problems<p>- having just aquired my canadian permanent residence after years and lots of money, it was a harrowing process. Clogging the already dysfunctional immigration system en masse as a whim is not just stupid, it&#x27;s insulting to people currently going through immigration, and downright threatening to people who are in very real danger<p>If you&#x27;re a disgruntled US citizen, I can understand your frustration, but please don&#x27;t take this lightly.
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colmvp超过 8 年前
Canada seems appealing to Americans until you realize you could be earning more in the U.S. while spending less on a bunch of other things.<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I love living in Canada and I mostly don&#x27;t miss living in Bay Area, but most of my friends lament the fact that their salary and career opportunities are a joke compared to what they could have in the U.S. (even adjusting for cost of living).
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anguswithgusto超过 8 年前
Montreal startups hiring:<p>-Transit (transitapp.com)<p>-Unsplash (unsplash.com)<p>-Hopper (hopper.com)<p>-Breather (breather.com)<p>-Sonder (sonder.com)<p>-Busbud (busbud.com)<p>-AmpMe (ampme.com)<p>-Fuzzy AI (fuzzy.ai)<p>-Frank &amp; Oak (frankandoak.com)<p>You can get a pretty nice 1 BR apartment in Montreal for ~$600 US&#x2F;mo. Incredible bars, beautiful people, great schools, bike paths, and lots of outdoor rinks to play hockey in the winter :-)<p>FYI: Montreal startups operate in English!
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baby超过 8 年前
People are not going to move. After every single election in France people say they will move to the US, or to germany, or to... I&#x27;ve never seen anyone moved anywhere.<p>ps: parts of my family moved out of Hong Kong when it became Chinese again. But that was quite a different situation.
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mahyarm超过 8 年前
As a Canadian who moved away, I must warn you that Canada has a form of dutch disease. Resource extraction investments have a much better risk&#x2F;return ratio, so the pay doesn&#x27;t even approach US levels. Thus software doesn&#x27;t approach the levels of investment you have in the USA. And you thought SF was bad, wait until you see what has gone wrong with the housing markets in Toronto and Vancouver.<p>I liked Canada and it&#x27;s sad that I have to live away from my family, but I would be a fool to stay otherwise.
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peeters超过 8 年前
I don&#x27;t really get the mindset of &quot;if Trump wins I&#x27;m moving to X country.&quot; The citizens in all of those countries are much more scared of a Trump presidency than Americans seem to be. It stands to reason that the best place to weather a Trump administration is from within the U.S.<p>I mean, when your guy is threatening to disband NATO, tear up NAFTA (and rejects free trade as a whole), reinstate torture as official policy, etc...would you rather live in the U.S. or in one of its allied countries?
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ingenieros超过 8 年前
I would advice anyone considering moving to a different country to spend some time studying FATCA. Even if you move out of the U.S you will still be responsible for filing taxes every single year unless you renounce your citizenship which is not easy by any means. Foreign banks are required by FATCA law to pass all your financial information to the I.R.S and in some countries they will downright refuse opening a bank account for american citizens to avoid this nuissance.
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grizzles超过 8 年前
If you need to leave the U.S. consider moving to Australia. (I did) The cost of living here is high, but the salaries are very high for professionals. If you are a talented thrifty person - you can save a lot of money fast. Good surfing too.<p>For startups. you get about ~50c back on the dollar from the gov&#x27;t annually. You don&#x27;t need to make a single dollar in profit to get that, it is based on the invested capital.<p>Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.
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namank超过 8 年前
$20 says the crash is because of all the online jokes about moving to Canada that contain links to this site.
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nhebb超过 8 年前
I don&#x27;t even know how to respond to this. People die trying to make it into the U.S. I&#x27;m not a flag-waving jingoist, but the the United States is a f&#x27;ing great place to live.
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Tomte超过 8 年前
If you&#x27;re afraid of the US President, moving abroad isn&#x27;t helpful. His domestic power is severely limited and checks-n-balanced.<p>Granted, that only counts for fear of a semi-tyrannical president, not necessarily for economic concerns.
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readhn超过 8 年前
I stick to George Carlin&#x27;s advice: I&#x27;m in the front seat and I want the best entertainment. And Trump will deliver the best entertainment of all candidates! I&#x27;m staying to watch this circus, pass the pop corn!
nvk超过 8 年前
Corp tax in Ontario is 15% and free health care. Dev pay also comparable.<p>Come over :)
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meaganc超过 8 年前
It seems like it would be more useful for Silicon Valley to just put their money where their mouth is and declare war. Fund education like crazy, pour a ton of money into environmental causes and just go nuts. Create a useful America.
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platita超过 8 年前
There actually are more options than just the Canadian cities and there&#x27;s a site for figuring out your best options: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teleport.org" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teleport.org</a>
alexbanks超过 8 年前
My girlfriend and I (Both software devs) would gladly move to Canada with the help of a company employing us. Almost immediately. We have little to no attachment to our current city of Portland.
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kasey_junk超过 8 年前
The major tech centers in Canada have major housing price issues. The housing to salary ratio in Vancouver and Toronto are terrifying.
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lotsoflumens超过 8 年前
If any of you have seen an Ottawa winter, you&#x27;ll understand that the one guy on the night-shift there is too busy trying to figure out how fast he can get to Australia.
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0xmohit超过 8 年前
No surprises. It runs on Windows with IIS as the web server [0].<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;toolbar.netcraft.com&#x2F;site_report?url=http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cic.gc.ca" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;toolbar.netcraft.com&#x2F;site_report?url=http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cic.g...</a>
hueving超过 8 年前
Leaving the country over an election like this seems pretty childish IMO. Why wouldn&#x27;t you wait until there was, you know, some kind of policy change before making that kind of massive life decision?
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dmode超过 8 年前
I have lived extensively in NL and Denmark. Would give an arm and a leg to move there again. Need to find a job for myself and wife there
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devonkim超过 8 年前
What happened or didn&#x27;t happen to the people running the site between 2004 and now when GWB was re-elected? You&#x27;d think that you should be shoring up the website seeing spikes for a while, and it&#x27;s been over 10 years since that site crash and populations haven&#x27;t gotten an order of magnitude higher exactly.
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throw2016超过 8 年前
Let&#x27;s get real. No one is going to Canada. This is just grist and posturing for the social media mill. But it&#x27;s still fun.<p>Trump does not take himself seriously, so why should you. The trump presidency is going to be a clusterfuck, gaffes galore, pure comedy but hopefully eventually harmless and the bigger risk is people overreacting.<p>Seriously nothing can be worse than the sinister and duplicitious behind the scenes status quo represented by Hilary Clinton and her ilk. This is 4 years for the entrenched frauds and clowns in politics and media to reassess their ruling strategies as it appears nearly everyone can now see through their bullshit and crave honesty and sincerity even if its ugly.
danieltillett超过 8 年前
Is it good or bad news that the Australian immigration website is still up [1]?<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.border.gov.au&#x2F;Trav&#x2F;Visa-1&#x2F;457-" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.border.gov.au&#x2F;Trav&#x2F;Visa-1&#x2F;457-</a>
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tacoman超过 8 年前
This probably has more to do with Patch Tuesday than the extra 500 page loads it got.
bwooceli超过 8 年前
There&#x27;s more to it than just sour grapes, there are minorities legitimately concerned about what their future in America looks like, would not be surprised if they made up a decent chunk of the visitors to that site.
partycoder超过 8 年前
Canada is not bad if you feel comfortable in that weather.<p>There are some cultural differences, but at a professional level it is very similar to the US.<p>They do seem friendlier though. Much friendlier.
seikatsu超过 8 年前
Well, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;teleport.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;teleport.org</a> is still up, for searching 200+ other cities you could move to...
retreatguru超过 8 年前
I wonder how this might affect startups in Canada? Will it be easier to hire American programmers? Will more investors come up north?
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ceejay超过 8 年前
Before we know it, politicians in Canada will be promising their citizens they&#x27;re going to build a wall of their own ;)
omribahumi超过 8 年前
No one mentioned Tel-Aviv. We have excellent weather, food and beach. Google and Facebook have engineering offices in Tel-Aviv, and there are lots of start-ups here.<p>I&#x27;m not sure what&#x27;s the process of getting a visa though. Jewish people can get citizenship relatively easy (Jewish state yada yada yada).<p>Disclaimer: I work at Facebook Tel-Aviv
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chunky1994超过 8 年前
The folks over at anonymous were bombarding the site according to some of the shadier 4chan boards.
reflexive超过 8 年前
I haven&#x27;t heard any of Trump&#x27;s opponents threaten to move to Mexico... ;-)
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ibrotzky超过 8 年前
Coming to Canada? We can help, www.vanhack.com, our focus is helping international tech talent get jobs in Canada.<p>Check out our jobs board: app.vanhack.com&#x2F;jobboard and shoot me an email with any questions: ilya@vanhack.com
SixSigma超过 8 年前
What poor risk analysis on behalf of voters.<p>Same happened at Brexit. Businesses suddenly reacting to what had happened rather than being prepared for something they had known was a possibility for months if not years.
juliend2超过 8 年前
As a Canadian, I want to say that the great country that is the United States absolutely needs democrat voters more than ever. So PLEASE stay home for the democracy in your country.
tallanvor超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m seriously considering switching citizenship now - I&#x27;ve lived in Norway long enough that I can, although I&#x27;m not sure how long the process will take or cost.
joeclark77超过 8 年前
The snarky reply to the &quot;moving to Canada&quot; thing is: why don&#x27;t all these California liberals want move to Mexico? It&#x27;s closer, isn&#x27;t it?
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vivekd超过 8 年前
I say we Canadians build a wall and make America pay for it.
johnnydoebk超过 8 年前
Guys, take me to the first world. I want to suffer, too.
Scoundreller超过 8 年前
You also get a few more Canadian cents per US$ since the markets closed today, so your money goes further.<p>And vacations to Mexico just got 10% cheaper.
s0me0ne超过 8 年前
I believe it takes like 5 yrs for citizenship anyway, I remember hearing something like that back in 2005
mrfusion超过 8 年前
Is this really feasible for Americans? Is it hard to get citizenship? Would double taxation kill you?
danm07超过 8 年前
I&#x27;ve lived in LA, SF, Boston, Toronto, and Vancouver.<p>I liked SF and Boston. Things moved a lot quicker. The cities were more populated, people were more educated (I was near Harvard &#x2F; MIT &#x2F; UC Berkeley ) and unassuming.<p>I went to college near Toronto, and almost all my professors were American. They liked Canada for all the reasons I didn&#x27;t like it. Things seemed to progress slower than their American counterparts, and people were less wound up. The downside is that the service quality in the private sector is not comparable that of the US.<p>I currently reside in Vancouver. It&#x27;s beautiful here, but you get lots of rain during winter seasons. People are friendly. It&#x27;s expensive if you live near the city, but where isn&#x27;t?<p>Pay is definitely not as good if you&#x27;re an engineer... Maybe 70 cents on the dollar. If you&#x27;re trying to build a software startup, definitely consider moving your HQ to Canada (or outside of SF!), and keeping a corporate office in SV for fundraising. There&#x27;s less competition for engineers, and you&#x27;ll make 30% more progress per dollar invested.<p>Technology-wise, I&#x27;d suggest Waterloo. Silicon Valley hires graduates from U of Waterloo only second to UC Berkeley. Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics chaired by Stephen Hawkings is also there. The city is also home to Institute of Quantum Computing, started by the founder of Blackberry.<p>D-Wave, one of the major players in quantum computing is based in British Columbia.<p>In terms of AI, Canada is a bit of a talent drain. Most of the lead researchers and professors have been lured to Oxford or Google or wherever.<p>Venture Capital presence is limited here. Vancouver has only got a handful of major venture firms. Though, I met a couple of investors from Silicon Valley investors trying to start something up near UBC. I can&#x27;t say much about Toronto.<p>Quality of living is pretty good here. I can go out for walks during midnight and not have to worry about getting robbed - something I was never able to do in LA. Many parks.<p>Overall, you&#x27;d like Canada if you&#x27;re willing to trade slower pace, liberal views, colder weather for population size, and American imperialism.<p>Every American I&#x27;ve met in Canada really enjoyed being here, just as every Canadian in America I&#x27;ve met really enjoyed being there.<p>I&#x27;m no exception. There&#x27;s something I love about the narrow Cobblestone streets in Cambridge, the golden hills in SF Bay Area, the weather in LA. And oddly enough, I&#x27;ve found that people I&#x27;ve met in the US are more personable than those in Canada. I suppose that comes with the more unified sense of national identity that is in someways a fascade.
GnarfGnarf超过 8 年前
Now they get to find out what labour laws are like for aliens :o)
rileyt超过 8 年前
Here is a helpful tool I made for anyone considering moving to Canada!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.canadiantechjobsforamericans.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.canadiantechjobsforamericans.com&#x2F;</a>
nathanvanfleet超过 8 年前
As if Canada is far enough away. Good luck.
unix超过 8 年前
China, Welcome you. :-)
patrickg_zill超过 8 年前
Do you really want to move to a country whose government can&#x27;t even keep a mostly-static-webpage site up?
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zxcvvcxz超过 8 年前
Serious question - why doesn&#x27;t anyone talk about moving to Mexico? It&#x27;s a lot warmer...
bitmapbrother超过 8 年前
I&#x27;ve heard a lot of people say, in the U.S, that if this or that happens then &quot;I&#x27;m moving to Canada&quot;. It&#x27;s as if they think Canada would welcome them with open arms. Think again.
microcolonel超过 8 年前
For what it&#x27;s worth, I doubt the infrastructure was that good to begin with. Sites put up by my country&#x27;s government are only set up to handle normal load.
gnipgnip超过 8 年前
Is it just me who is cursing themselves for not shorting USDJPY at the right moment ?<p>Damn. Whoever thought being obsessed with the election coverage would be useful.
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