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In 63 days Trump will inherit mass surveillance from Obama

38 点作者 throwawayIndian超过 8 年前

8 条评论

djschnei超过 8 年前
Cracks me up this is presented like &quot;Obama, come on, we know you&#x27;re a good guy. Pleassssse&quot;.<p>Give me a break... Barack loves extrajudicial powers.<p>This is the problem with large, powerful governments. Sooner or later, the other guys will have the power.<p>If you voted for Obama (ESPECIALLY twice) and you&#x27;re worried about Trump having power over the NSA, I am laughing at you.
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dingaling超过 8 年前
It&#x27;s a rather incoherent message. First, they state:<p>&quot;Take action to dismantle the NSA&quot;<p>which shouldn&#x27;t be too difficult, just revoke the 1952 Presidential Order and defund them from the intelligence budget.<p>Then:<p>&quot;The NSA has turned the Internet into a weapon, collecting everything it can. &quot;<p>OK going steady so far, still on-message. All <i>n</i>-billion people on the Internet are in the dragnet and we&#x27;re all nodding in agreement.<p>But then, when they enumerate their actual action-points:<p>&quot;Delete the data stored on Americans, and demolish the physical infrastructure needed to collect this data. &quot;<p>So it&#x27;s not dismantling they actually want but <i>blunting</i>. Still want to keep the NSA to spy on those nasty non-persons abroad.<p>Look I don&#x27;t have a problem with Americans calling for the NSA to stop spying on Americans, that&#x27;s your internal problem. But please don&#x27;t wrap it up in hyperbole about &#x27;dismantling&#x27; the NSA if you don&#x27;t actually mean that.
benmcnelly超过 8 年前
Why would Obama pardon Snowden, it is obvious he is in agreement on the whole &quot;he is a traitor&quot; thing. Also, why is Trump inheriting thing a motivating factor for anyone?<p>&quot;Oh God! Please give us back the situation where government overreach is back in the hands of career politicians!&quot;<p>How about you instead focus on petitioning to the new President who might actually be swayed into doing something about it if conservative and liberals come together and push for it. He&#x27;s a populist, make it the cool thing to do...
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benevol超过 8 年前
&quot;A new leader will be elected, they&#x27;ll flip the switch, say that because of the crisis, because of the dangers that we face in the world - some new and unpredicted threat - we need more authority, we need more power. And there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. It will be turnkey tyranny.&quot; - Edward Snowden (June 2013)
jackskell超过 8 年前
I guess it&#x27;s only ok when YOUR GUY runs ramshod over the Constitution...<p>It&#x27;s really telling about intentions, particularly in view of registries, or lists, where it&#x27;s perfectly ok to keep a master list of gun purchasers, but not illegal aliens (or apparently, even visa holders). We were told &quot;what&#x27;s the harm in a list&quot;. Looks like we knew what what your intentions were the whole time for the list... Action against those people when possible or politically expedient...
module0000超过 8 年前
I wonder what list we all end up on if we actually fill out and submit anything on the form from the link?
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Animats超过 8 年前
And Steve Bannon, the guy who runs Breitbart News, will have access to the take.
sharemywin超过 8 年前
not if Obama shuts it down and does tell him about it...
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