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Supercapacitors Batteries charges in seconds without degrading

103 点作者 Ideabile超过 8 年前

9 条评论

gus_massa超过 8 年前
The size of the battery varies from phone to phone, but let&#x27;s choose 3000mAh as a typical value so the battery is enough for a full day.<p>If you want to charge it in &quot;seconds&quot;, let&#x27;s use 60 seconds as an upper bound.<p>So if the charger has a 100% efficiency, then it has to provide 3000mAh&#x2F;60sec = 3000mAh * 3600 sec&#x2F;h &#x2F; 60sec = 180000mA = 18A.<p>An USB can provide between 0.1A and 0.9A. For comparison, a typical plug in a home can provide 10A. So to charge the phone you will need some big connector, not a tiny microUSB like connector.<p>But it&#x27;s worse. From the article:<p>&gt; <i>&quot;If they were to replace the batteries with these supercapacitors, you could charge your mobile phone in a few seconds and you wouldn&#x27;t need to charge it again for over a week,&quot; said Nitin Choudhary, a postdoctoral associate who conducted much of the research published recently in the academic journal ACS Nano.</i><p>To recharge the phone once a week, I guess you will need a 20000mAH battery, and a few seconds is something like 5, so the connector must survive to 1000A, that is a ridiculous current.
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daveguy超过 8 年前
Apparently they are on par with energy density and power density. They are way ahead on cycle stability (30k charges). So that pretty much leaves two things:<p>1. Charge stability. Does it leak like a sieve even without a load after being charged?<p>2. Manufacturability. I expect this is the big problem. It&#x27;s a chemical engineering problem to scale up a &quot;nano&quot; process. The article says it&#x27;s not ready, but doesn&#x27;t say what the biggest challenge is going forward.<p>Anyone know this particular supercapacity tech? Or supercaps in general?
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gravypod超过 8 年前
Coincidentally they also like to discharge in seconds!
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kylehotchkiss超过 8 年前
The scary part is that touching the two connectors of a supercapacitor is an instant discharge. Which might prove pretty dangerous.
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seesomesense超过 8 年前
The original article is High-Performance One-Body Core&#x2F;Shell Nanowire Supercapacitor Enabled by Conformal Growth of Capacitive 2D WS2 Layers DOI: 10.1021&#x2F;acsnano.6b06111<p>and is available at the usual places.
sandworm101超过 8 年前
&gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone with a smartphone knows the problem: After 18 months or so, it holds a charge for less and less time as the battery begins to degrade.<p>Really? That&#x27;s still a thing? These aren&#x27;t nicads. I&#x27;ve found that my phone doesn&#x27;t report full charge as often, but it still lasts for a similar amount of time. My 5+yo netbook&#x27;s battery is still reporting 80% of its design capacity.<p>Imho, such apparently dramatic falls in capacity often have more to do with running apps rather than physical degradation of the battery. Talk to me after a reset to factory settings.
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Tepix超过 8 年前
Sorry for being cynical but I&#x27;ll get excited only once I can actually buy this latest battery breakthrough, not when it is still X years away.
AndrewDucker超过 8 年前
I thought that capacitors also discharged incredibly quickly. Can a capacitor be used like a battery?
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mrfusion超过 8 年前
If this is true it would be revolutionary right?
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