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News Feed FYI: Addressing Hoaxes and Fake News

84 点作者 envy2超过 8 年前

16 条评论

r2dnb超过 8 年前
Remember :<p>- It all started with Facebook being accused of manipulating the timeline to remove conservative stories during the campaign<p>- At the time, their PR was along the lines of : we will fire the staff and replace it with an &quot;objective&quot; algorithm<p>- Shortly before the end of the campaign, the Fake News narrative started to be tested under various forms (&quot;conspiracy theories are going mainstream&quot;, &quot;damaging rumors&quot; etc...)<p>- Post election the Fake News narrative started to be really pushed by politics<p>- At the same time, FB started to announce actions to fight the so called &quot;Fake News Problem&quot;.<p>- And these day, hearing FB and mainstream media, the rethoric is as shameless as &quot;We need to clean the news&quot;.<p>Having been caught doing some very troubling things, FB answer is to double down with what would be called censorship if it was being done in China.<p>Shutting down opinions, based on the opinions expressed can remind certain patterns of a not so old history. I find it shocking that people accept this development so quietly. Everybody seems to be ok with that. It seems like citizens are no longer awake and fighting for the bill of rights, seriously folks how can something like this possibly happen in this country ? Are you realizing what is happening here ?<p>In 2016, the average citizen thinks he is a good citizen and is all proud by being &quot;politically correct&quot; for a number of small things (often ridiculous and preventing him from maturing his own opinions) but everybody is comfortable with movements such as &quot;Cleaning the news&quot; being organized in plain sight. That&#x27;s how you know something is fucked up. This is a shame.
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gfodor超过 8 年前
ok, so now the obvious question becomes, who fact checks the fact checkers?<p>i don&#x27;t blame facebook, but the people that have been asking for this i guess are about to get what they deserve: more consolidation of the power of persuasion of the masses into the hands of facebook. want to instantly discredit a story? just UPDATE stories SET disputed = t WHERE ID = ?
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danso超过 8 年前
&gt; <i>We’ve found that a lot of fake news is financially motivated. Spammers make money by masquerading as well-known news organizations, and posting hoaxes that get people to visit to their sites, which are often mostly ads. So we’re doing several things to reduce the financial incentives. On the buying side we’ve eliminated the ability to spoof domains, which will reduce the prevalence of sites that pretend to be real publications.</i><p>What do they mean &quot;the ability to spoof domains&quot;? Was that a technical issue? Or do they mean they&#x27;re blacklisting sites such as <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;abcnews.com.co&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;abcnews.com.co&#x2F;</a>, progenitor of such hoaxes as El Chapo escaping from prison (again) [0]<p>Given how easy it is to fool people with ambiguous characters&#x2F;names, blacklisting URLs that aren&#x27;t all ASCII might be a good precaution too.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ABCnews.com.co" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ABCnews.com.co</a>
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lhnz超过 8 年前
I wonder if this will be as sketchy as politifact? I hope it won&#x27;t be, but I reckon it might be. (What I mean is: extremely uncharitable readings of things that they don&#x27;t like, but overly charitable readings of anything that they like.)
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seanca超过 8 年前
Facebook seems to be stumbling down the same page that Twitter did here in terms of attempting to regulate some content, by means that they themselves determines to be un-biased and in the best interests of users... which hasn&#x27;t quite worked out so well for Twitter.<p>If everything is fine and unmoderated, there is no bias. If some things are flagged, not allowed, etc, I don&#x27;t care how much a 3rd party is trusted. It&#x27;s still humans picking and choosing one piece of content over another, and there are inherent biases involved there.
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alva超过 8 年前
Still think this is a horrible move for a variety of reasons but I have one big question.<p>Where can I access the reasons and organisation who have disputed the link?<p>Without this information, this is even more terrible than I had previously thought it would be. If we cannot see who disputed the link and why, this is massive potential for abuse.<p>edit: Apparently the reason is given in a link
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jwtadvice超过 8 年前
The ultimate issue here is that these information providers need to train their users to be gullible, as this is their business and partnership model.<p>These platforms only function because advertisements and political messaging have to be seen, and are seen, as credible and native to the content being traded by the people using the platform.<p>Users are trained to uncritically believe the things that show up on their feed, because if they were trained to be skeptical they would the platform would go bankrupt.<p>Similarly, news media requires readers to have full faith - almost ideological allegiance - in what they are reporting, while at the same time they need an uncritical readership so that they can promote political and consumer advertisements, sponsored and &#x27;earned&#x27; content promotion and opinion pieces as though they were fact.<p>The entire industry functions on the basis of gullible and uncritical readership, media allegiance and sponsored content.<p>The industry has fallen to extremely low credibility ratings, and a series of nonsense and unpredictive and obvious reporting out of the &#x27;most credible&#x27; parts of the industry have left a vacuum whereby readers do not know what to believe, and so accept whatever is most convenient and most readily available.<p>The solution is to create a credible news media industry, with no sponsored or partner content, no PR, no government propaganda, and where the readers (and skimmers) are the customers who pay for the information. The industry should compete to provide context and reliable information, and readership should be encouraged to be skeptical of the information presented to them at all times.<p>Maintaining the current mispractice of the poorly functioning industry and adding protectionist measures, gatekeeping and sponsored fact-checkers is not going to solve the problem.<p>&quot;I&#x27;ll tell them what to think&quot; is not a solution to &quot;these people are gullible.&quot;
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tjr超过 8 年前
<i>Once a story is flagged, it can’t be made into an ad and promoted, either.</i><p>After a single flag from a single user?
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losteverything超过 8 年前
I kind of wish they took no action. It is inevitable fb will be the &quot;war of the worlds&quot; or National Enquirer wrt &quot;news&quot; doing nothing gets them there quicker.<p>Fb is unparalled in sharing photos and personal information to friend. News? Not.
throw2016超过 8 年前
Nothing can help an ignorant or illiterate population. If that is your premise the next logical step is censorship and this is censorship.<p>How does the arrogant assumption of ignorant readers so weak willed they can be &#x27;led ashtray&#x27; by &#x27;fake news&#x27; even take hold? Do people really believe that &#x27;other people&#x27; believe everything they read?<p>The ridiculous idea that people are naive is a fabricated construction designed to empower some while &#x27;infantalising&#x27; the rest and is inherently anti-democratic.<p>Ordinary scepticism and not believing everything you read or hear is a basic human skill.<p>This fake news scare and blame &#x27;Putin&#x27; for everything wrong in the world is so illiterate, juvenile and insulting to basic human intelligence and reflects something dangerously wrong in our media, politics and the tech community.
jscheel超过 8 年前
The sad thing is, most people who share fake news will just claim that Facebook is now part of the Soros-Clinton conspiracy to support the MSM and hide the truth from the public. I like that they have a specific set of guidelines for determining the veracity of a news story, and I&#x27;m sure this will go a long way towards removing the financial incentive, but I&#x27;m guessing it won&#x27;t sway many minds.
gedy超过 8 年前
How about a setting to block all link shares if this is supposedly such a huge threat?
tomquin超过 8 年前
Expecting corporate media to sanitize itself might be a new proof of Einstein&#x27;s rule of insanity. The only short term solution to rampant widespread disinformation in the MSM is a healthy and sustained level of cynicism. Its time the media was truly disrupted and dispatched to the bottom of the see.
nostromo超过 8 年前
The timing of this makes it seem politically motivated. I&#x27;ve seen plenty of fake news on my liberal feed. Things like 9&#x2F;11 conspiracy theories, anti-vaccination stories, stories about the dangers of genetically modified foods, etc.
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intrasight超过 8 年前
I just disable the FB news feed
halpiamaquark超过 8 年前
The kosher fact checkers list includes the biased and opinion-based Politifact and Snopes.
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